Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
07-05-2017 | 11:34 AM
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07-05-2017 | 12:16 PM
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Word I heard was the union came to the company with a plan for the $$$ that the company had said to come with and the company went back on that number and counteroffered with such a lowball amount that the negotiators just walked out. Perhaps we finally have some negotiators that won't just spread the cheeks anymore. Personally I'm looking forward to the bonus expiring and this place watching 75 a month walk again. I'll be one of them walking this time.
07-05-2017 | 02:28 PM
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07-05-2017 | 05:25 PM
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I'm not rooting for the end of Endeavor, but it seems the only way to get Delta to move is if their back is against a wall. With us finding 60+ a month still showing up to class, they have no motivation to improve things here. If you want contract improvements and a flow it will probably take at the least imminent expiration of the bonus and class sizes less than half of what we are currently seeing. So in that sense, I'm not hoping for Endeavor to fail, I'm hoping the recruitment team stops being very successful. Frankly I'm shocked that so many are still showing up here over any of the AA flow airlines. It'd be a no brainer to me, but I guess we are getting a lot of 50+ year olds that don't care about a flow as they plan to end their career here.
07-05-2017 | 05:44 PM
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I'm not rooting for the end of Endeavor, but it seems the only way to get Delta to move is if their back is against a wall. With us finding 60+ a month still showing up to class, they have no motivation to improve things here. If you want contract improvements and a flow it will probably take at the least imminent expiration of the bonus and class sizes less than half of what we are currently seeing. So in that sense, I'm not hoping for Endeavor to fail, I'm hoping the recruitment team stops being very successful. Frankly I'm shocked that so many are still showing up here over any of the AA flow airlines. It'd be a no brainer to me, but I guess we are getting a lot of 50+ year olds that don't care about a flow as they plan to end their career here.
07-05-2017 | 05:44 PM
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I'm not rooting for the end of Endeavor, but it seems the only way to get Delta to move is if their back is against a wall. With us finding 60+ a month still showing up to class, they have no motivation to improve things here. If you want contract improvements and a flow it will probably take at the least imminent expiration of the bonus and class sizes less than half of what we are currently seeing. So in that sense, I'm not hoping for Endeavor to fail, I'm hoping the recruitment team stops being very successful. Frankly I'm shocked that so many are still showing up here over any of the AA flow airlines. It'd be a no brainer to me, but I guess we are getting a lot of 50+ year olds that don't care about a flow as they plan to end their career here.
07-05-2017 | 06:40 PM
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Mesa is still putting people in classes, as is GoJets. So it's no mystery that we are as well, at least to me.
As for the part in bold, not sure what the classes are looking like today, but when I got hired, I'd estimate the class was about 24% aged 50 or older. About the same percentage was ex-military looking to get current and move on (two have already, perhaps a third).
As for the part in bold, not sure what the classes are looking like today, but when I got hired, I'd estimate the class was about 24% aged 50 or older. About the same percentage was ex-military looking to get current and move on (two have already, perhaps a third).
I'm not rooting for the end of Endeavor, but it seems the only way to get Delta to move is if their back is against a wall. With us finding 60+ a month still showing up to class, they have no motivation to improve things here. If you want contract improvements and a flow it will probably take at the least imminent expiration of the bonus and class sizes less than half of what we are currently seeing. So in that sense, I'm not hoping for Endeavor to fail, I'm hoping the recruitment team stops being very successful. Frankly I'm shocked that so many are still showing up here over any of the AA flow airlines. It'd be a no brainer to me, but I guess we are getting a lot of 50+ year olds that don't care about a flow as they plan to end their career here.
07-06-2017 | 05:54 AM
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Mesa is still putting people in classes, as is GoJets. So it's no mystery that we are as well, at least to me.
As for the part in bold, not sure what the classes are looking like today, but when I got hired, I'd estimate the class was about 24% aged 50 or older. About the same percentage was ex-military looking to get current and move on (two have already, perhaps a third).
As for the part in bold, not sure what the classes are looking like today, but when I got hired, I'd estimate the class was about 24% aged 50 or older. About the same percentage was ex-military looking to get current and move on (two have already, perhaps a third).
07-06-2017 | 06:11 AM
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I'm not rooting for the end of Endeavor, but it seems the only way to get Delta to move is if their back is against a wall. With us finding 60+ a month still showing up to class, they have no motivation to improve things here. If you want contract improvements and a flow it will probably take at the least imminent expiration of the bonus and class sizes less than half of what we are currently seeing. So in that sense, I'm not hoping for Endeavor to fail, I'm hoping the recruitment team stops being very successful. Frankly I'm shocked that so many are still showing up here over any of the AA flow airlines. It'd be a no brainer to me, but I guess we are getting a lot of 50+ year olds that don't care about a flow as they plan to end their career here.
07-06-2017 | 06:40 AM
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The older pilots I'm seeing are retired military. And many of them are just here to get current again. I just flew with one guy that's been here a year give or take, and he had interviews with Delta and FedEx. He received offers from both. I believe he was also in the early stages with Southwest and American as well. Guys/gals that are ex military or already have a strong resume don't really care about flow either as they probably can get to a major faster on their own
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