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Old 07-08-2017, 05:15 PM
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Latest rumor off the street. Vacancy delayed becuase endeavor is working with delta for a fleet plan becuase.... 200s being cancelled and taking 900s, Atl 900 base, Mexico and Caribbean flying. Look for a announcement by the 20th. You heard it from ol prex first
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New Seniority List is posted on Endeavor website dated 7-7-2017. It can be found under Flight Ops / Pilot Seniority List.
I didn't find a new Vacancy Notice though.
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Old 07-08-2017, 06:01 PM
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Latest rumor off the street. Vacancy delayed becuase endeavor is working with delta for a fleet plan becuase.... 200s being cancelled and taking 900s, Atl 900 base, Mexico and Caribbean flying. Look for a announcement by the 20th. You heard it from ol prex first
Cancelled isn't the word I heard for the 200's, more like suspended, pending some things involving DL & ASA.
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Old 07-08-2017, 06:29 PM
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[QUOTE=Urbandrone;2391539]I'll vote "No" to any contract that doesn't have a flow, increase our scope to 150 passenger aircraft, has first year pay at $85, with a top at $225, also include "C' series flying. That's just to start. Well all should stand firm on 200% pick up on everything, 15 days of minimum, all long call reserve, DTW and MSP must have increases in flying, god knows these two airports or the center of our universe all other flying is meaningless. This is our only option to get ahead.

Well we could probably just wear our hats, give gate announcements, have a positive attitude and get hired by Delta two years after upgrade... but that is to simple, lets fight instead![/

This comment is poisonous. Prime example of zero unity. Hey guys put your hat on!

How about fly the damn airplane safely and demand a pay increase. WE ARE ALL PILOTING OUR PLANES URBANDRONE!
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Old 07-09-2017, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390 View Post
Latest rumor off the street. Vacancy delayed becuase endeavor is working with delta for a fleet plan becuase.... 200s being cancelled and taking 900s, Atl 900 base, Mexico and Caribbean flying. Look for a announcement by the 20th. You heard it from ol prex first

Many people have been saying this; even on here. So not the first, bud. As for the additional flying... we used to fly those routes in the past so nothing really new there. BECAUSE I love to be a buzz kill. haha
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Old 07-09-2017, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by APMechXJ View Post
July flights: DTW (921-9s, 1263-2s, 2184 total), MSP (659-9s, 961-2s, 1620 total), ATL (351-9s, 978-2s, 1329 total).

August flights: DTW (826-9s, 1202-2s, 2028 total), MSP (656-9s, 948-2s, 1604 total), ATL (286-9s, 1393-2s, 1679 total).

September flights: DTW (575-9s, 912-2s, 1487 total), MSP (570-9s, 749-2s, 1319 total), ATL (207-9s, 1678-2s, 1678 total).

DTW and MSP #4 and 5 now behind LGA, JFK, and soon to be ATL.... if there is potential news about fleet growth/change... they might want to say something soon.

Some of this I think is summer drop off/some it... not

DTW August to September drop off... 25%
MSP August to September drop off... 18%
LGA August to September drop off... 15%
JFK August to September drop off... 11%
ATL August to September GAIN... 12%
Oh cool. More flying. That's positive.
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Old 07-09-2017, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by saab340driver View Post
Staple would solve all the problems in the world (flow is so yesterday). Get it done!
Can alpa-to-alpa carriers be stapled? I thought not, although if the pukish regional agrees to that then I guess it's possible.
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I'll vote "No" to any contract that doesn't have a flow, increase our scope to 150 passenger aircraft, has first year pay at $85, with a top at $225, also include "C' series flying. That's just to start. Well all should stand firm on 200% pick up on everything, 15 days of minimum, all long call reserve, DTW and MSP must have increases in flying, god knows these two airports or the center of our universe all other flying is meaningless. This is our only option to get ahead.

Well we could probably just wear our hats, give gate announcements, have a positive attitude and get hired by Delta two years after upgrade... but that is to simple, lets fight instead!
Why don't you go to skywest..you would fit in much better over there....they do all that BS and make less $$ than us. Let me know how you are doing when delta rejects you in 2 years....you are pathetic. This kind of KOOL AID drinking attitude is toxic.
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Old 07-09-2017, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Urbandrone View Post
I'll vote "No" to any contract that doesn't have a flow, increase our scope to 150 passenger aircraft, has first year pay at $85, with a top at $225, also include "C' series flying. That's just to start. Well all should stand firm on 200% pick up on everything, 15 days of minimum, all long call reserve, DTW and MSP must have increases in flying, god knows these two airports or the center of our universe all other flying is meaningless. This is our only option to get ahead.

Well we could probably just wear our hats, give gate announcements, have a positive attitude and get hired by Delta two years after upgrade... but that is to simple, lets fight instead!
This is a dangerous attitude to have and makes it obvious ones lack of knowledge of the history between Delta Air Lines and its regionals. Simply put, you fight Delta, you lose (remember Comair?). This "No Flow, Vote No" movement has got to stop. Those of us who have witnessed the history with delta and the regionals know if you play ball you may get something good out of it, but what ultimately makes Delta act as someone else already put is when they are backed into a corner. Things didn't get better here in late 2014 until staffing levels went critical to where the 900 operation was threatened. We got retention bonuses! The bleeding stopped. Delta will not do a flow until they have no other choice and that means we go staffing critical again or delta starts to struggle filling their classes which is possible in a few years. Fighting and pushing for it now will only get the Delta hammer brought down on us.

Oh whoareyou311 ready for your displacement to ATL?! FYL!

PS...Upon reading urbans message a few more times again I will admit that since it is so off the wall the whole post could be satire/sarcasm. I don't think many at all can remotely think that is realistic to expect in a possible new contract.

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Originally Posted by pa28dakota View Post
This is a dangerous attitude to have and makes it obvious ones lack of knowledge of the history between Delta Air Lines and its regionals. Simply put, you fight Delta, you lose (remember Comair?). This "No Flow, Vote No" movement has got to stop. Those of us who have witnessed the history with delta and the regionals know if you play ball you may get something good out of it, but what ultimately makes Delta act as someone else already put is when they are backed into a corner. Things didn't get better here in late 2014 until staffing levels went critical to where the 900 operation was threatened. We got retention bonuses! The bleeding stopped. Delta will not do a flow until they have no other choice and that means we go staffing critical again or delta starts to struggle filling their classes which is possible in a few years. Fighting and pushing for it now will only get the Delta hammer brought down on us.

Oh whoareyou311 ready for your displacement to ATL?! FYL!
Anyone that gets their degree taken care of and gets the required time will get to a major ahead of a flow candidate in my opinion
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