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Old 07-09-2017, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by pa28dakota View Post
This is a dangerous attitude to have and makes it obvious ones lack of knowledge of the history between Delta Air Lines and its regionals. Simply put, you fight Delta, you lose (remember Comair?). This "No Flow, Vote No" movement has got to stop. Those of us who have witnessed the history with delta and the regionals know if you play ball you may get something good out of it, but what ultimately makes Delta act as someone else already put is when they are backed into a corner. Things didn't get better here in late 2014 until staffing levels went critical to where the 900 operation was threatened. We got retention bonuses! The bleeding stopped. Delta will not do a flow until they have no other choice and that means we go staffing critical again or delta starts to struggle filling their classes which is possible in a few years. Fighting and pushing for it now will only get the Delta hammer brought down on us.

Oh whoareyou311 ready for your displacement to ATL?! FYL!

PS...Upon reading urbans message a few more times again I will admit that since it is so off the wall the whole post could be satire/sarcasm. I don't think many at all can remotely think that is realistic to expect in a possible new contract.
Gee, you think this *could* be sarcasm?
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo View Post
Anyone that gets their degree taken care of and gets the required time will get to a major ahead of a flow candidate in my opinion
How much 121 experience are they looking for at the majors if you don't have military experience?
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Old 07-09-2017, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey View Post
Can alpa-to-alpa carriers be stapled? I thought not, although if the pukish regional agrees to that then I guess it's possible.
Check out the McCaskill-Bond amendment. After what happened to TWA in the AA buyout one mainline cannot staple the other. As far as a mainline buying a regional I would say yes but not very likely unless it would be in the best interest of mainline pilots or the mainline.

Back in the Comair days ALPA did not have a good enough merger policy between a mainline and a regional so a change was needed to clarify any buyout between a mainline and a regional. Clarify as in make it more advantages to the mainline or mainline pilots. It was also necessary to change/update DAL pilots contract as they used to have in their contract that only DAL pilots could operate DAL owned equipment. ALPA and mainline must protect their 2 class system at all costs regardless of what is right or wrong.
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Old 07-09-2017, 12:08 PM
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I imagine recruiting numbers would go through the roof if a flow plan were announced. How much more RJ growth does scope allow you guys?


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Old 07-09-2017, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bornflying View Post
How much 121 experience are they looking for at the majors if you don't have military experience?
Depends on the person, Are you male or female? Minority? Know someone in the HR department? could be less than 1000 121 time, could be 3000+
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Old 07-09-2017, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jethikoki View Post
Check out the McCaskill-Bond amendment. After what happened to TWA in the AA buyout one mainline cannot staple the other. As far as a mainline buying a regional I would say yes but not very likely unless it would be in the best interest of mainline pilots or the mainline.
For those too young to know the results of the AA buyout of TWA, there was an offset of a number of years of seniority for the senior TWA pilots. A good chunk of the junior TWA pilots then got stapled at the bottom of the seniority list.

The FA seniority list was a pure staple job. A TWA FA with 35 years seniority was stapled below the most junior AA FA with just a few months seniority.

As a result, Senators McCaskill and Bond got an amendment passed that prohibited a pure staple of mainlines from happening again.

Now, if you will excuse me, I need to rebandage the wound I just tore open.
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Old 07-09-2017, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by prex8390 View Post
Latest rumor off the street. Vacancy delayed becuase endeavor is working with delta for a fleet plan becuase.... 200s being cancelled and taking 900s, Atl 900 base, Mexico and Caribbean flying. Look for a announcement by the 20th. You heard it from ol prex first
We no longer have Ops Specs for Mexico or Caribbean operations thanks to the dim bulb Mesaba managers that took over for Phil the Clown ( or Flag ops or extended overwater ops)
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Old 07-09-2017, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by prex8390 View Post
Latest rumor off the street. Vacancy delayed becuase endeavor is working with delta for a fleet plan becuase.... 200s being cancelled and taking 900s, Atl 900 base, Mexico and Caribbean flying. Look for a announcement by the 20th. You heard it from ol prex first
DCI international ASMs have been decreasing the last several quarters so I wouldn't put too much weight on that part of the rumor. Also, mainline flights to those regions are almost always full even with high frequencies.
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Old 07-10-2017, 02:27 AM
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We no longer have Ops Specs for Mexico or Caribbean operations thanks to the dim bulb Mesaba managers that took over for Phil the Clown ( or Flag ops or extended overwater ops)
And how long does it really take to get those ops specs?
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Old 07-10-2017, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by web500sjc View Post
And how long does it really take to get those ops specs?
Based on the EFB experience, and this involving foreign entities and the ocean, 5+ years. Just a rough guess...
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