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Old 09-17-2021 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SierraMTNflyer
I'm loving the transparency for both the company and the union. Apparently there are many options, but they don't want to tell us what they are so that we can let them know what our opinion is. A bunch of soon to flow union guys deciding what is best for us.
This isn't Envoy. Six months ago, no one would be griping about the "soon to flow union guys" representing us.
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Old 09-17-2021 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver
This isn't Envoy. Six months ago, no one would be griping about the "soon to flow union guys" representing us.
Haha fair enough. Got to gripe about something for the next 4 years. But I would appreciate some more transparency. Especially with an open ended timeline like "soon"
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Old 09-17-2021 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SierraMTNflyer
Haha fair enough. Got to gripe about something for the next 4 years. But I would appreciate some more transparency. Especially with an open ended timeline like "soon"
Negotiations haven't stalled they're just taking more time to get the right deal for the pilot group. Since they are still on they're bound by NDA and can't share much as far as details of the current negotiations.
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Old 09-17-2021 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by teddy3412
Negotiations haven't stalled they're just taking more time to get the right deal for the pilot group. Since they are still on they're bound by NDA and can't share much as far as details of the current negotiations.
Just a guess, but im suspecting the company offered unlimited water and almonds on every flight. The Union responded "lets see how recruiting goes going forward and talk in a month or so.
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Old 09-17-2021 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
Just a guess, but im suspecting the company offered unlimited water and almonds on every flight. The Union responded "lets see how recruiting goes going forward and talk in a month or so.
Wait the almonds aren't unlimited? Crap!! I'll.have to limit how many bags I eat
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Old 09-17-2021 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
Sounds like negotiations broke down. We went from wanting to have an agreement this week to "we will further evaluate internally."

There really is no good reason for a new hire to come here. There also is no reason to stay here unless you are within a couple months of flow.
Hold on. The first email about this last week said up front that the company wanted it done by Friday and alpa didn't think that was realistic. I read it as, we didn't get it done for this week but both agreed to keep working on it. Call coming up next week. I think "broke down" is a little aggressive considering they didn't expect to finish it this week anyway
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Old 09-22-2021 | 11:47 AM
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MSP 900 captain is only 4 years to hold now. Never thought I would be seeing that
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Old 09-22-2021 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz
MSP 900 captain is only 4 years to hold now. Never thought I would be seeing that
looks like it is the most junior 900 Captain if this initial sticks.
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Old 09-22-2021 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by web500sjc
looks like it is the most junior 900 Captain if this initial sticks.
It will only get more junior as more senior captains flow.
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Old 09-22-2021 | 12:55 PM
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And with min 40 Capts flowing by next vacancy..depends if it comes out late Nov or early Dec
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