Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
06-14-2022, 07:38 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 415
Originally Posted by PilotBases
#1 thing EDV/DL could offer at this point would be a longevity credit when flowing. Kicks the cost off the regional partner, and makes it tempting to stay instead of LCC. Flow over at year 6 pay? That’s 150-160/hr and a huge leg up for the rest of one’s career. Other idea would be flowing 20 but putting say 30 on the list a month. Issue is any of these would require DALPA concurrence, which wouldn’t be on their radar until the PWA is done I’d imagine (remember DAL hasn’t has a pay raise since early 2019).
06-14-2022, 07:45 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2020
Posts: 2,189
Originally Posted by 13pro
fixed it for you. No one is flowing at 3 years. Even the propaganda calculator on the website doesn’t project 3 years… I’ve been here 4 years, and showing another 2-2.5 years to flow.
06-14-2022, 07:52 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 368
Originally Posted by PilotBases
I wouldn’t expect EDV DOH to carry over for longevity, in this hypothetical. It would be on DOS of whatever new LOA there is.
Not difficult to solve.
06-14-2022, 07:54 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2020
Posts: 2,189
Originally Posted by blindfayth
Or a credit of 2:1 with a cap or something.
Not difficult to solve.
Not difficult to solve.
06-14-2022, 07:58 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 368
Originally Posted by PilotBases
Exactly. It’s the next “interesting” option besides crazy money, and might be effective to stop some LCC losses, while not driving costs crazy high for the RJ partner. My biggest question isn’t “how does EDV survive?” but “how do Non-WOs compete?”
If they can't afford it, then too bad for them. Time to end the regional model.
06-14-2022, 09:13 AM
Gets Everyday Off
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: Relaxed
Posts: 6,945
Originally Posted by Ravenwing
I bet Envoy, Piedmont, and PSA get so many applications that they will call the ones with 500-1000 hours Part 121 time first. Replacing all the captains they are losing and keeping the ones they have will be their first priority.
06-14-2022, 10:48 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 415
Originally Posted by PilotBases
My biggest question isn’t “how does EDV survive?” but “how do Non-WOs compete?”
side note- I’ve spoken with a few DL pilots over the past week or 2 (before and after the AA news) and the ones I spoke to were very supportive of 9E and both even mentioned a “staple” of some sort unprompted. Just found that interesting.
06-14-2022, 11:08 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 507
Originally Posted by 13pro
Exactly. Delta can (if they will, is yet to be seen) afford to match AA in whatever way they decide. UAL owns 49% of commuteair, so they could probably be ok too. But go-jet, mesa, republic? I don’t see how they can. Skyworst probably can get close, at least temporarily. Going to be interesting.
side note- I’ve spoken with a few DL pilots over the past week or 2 (before and after the AA news) and the ones I spoke to were very supportive of 9E and both even mentioned a “staple” of some sort unprompted. Just found that interesting.
side note- I’ve spoken with a few DL pilots over the past week or 2 (before and after the AA news) and the ones I spoke to were very supportive of 9E and both even mentioned a “staple” of some sort unprompted. Just found that interesting.
06-14-2022, 11:11 AM
Porco Rosso
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,522
Originally Posted by 13pro
side note- I’ve spoken with a few DL pilots over the past week or 2 (before and after the AA news) and the ones I spoke to were very supportive of 9E and both even mentioned a “staple” of some sort unprompted. Just found that interesting.
06-14-2022, 11:22 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 102
Originally Posted by PilotBases
#1 thing EDV/DL could offer at this point would be a longevity credit when flowing. Kicks the cost off the regional partner, and makes it tempting to stay instead of LCC. Flow over at year 3 pay? That’s 150-160/hr and a huge leg up for the rest of one’s career. Other idea would be flowing 20 but putting say 30 on the list a month. Issue is any of these would require DALPA concurrence, which wouldn’t be on their radar until the PWA is done I’d imagine (remember DAL hasn’t has a pay raise since early 2019).
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
