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Old 09-01-2016, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Milk Man View Post
Also, Ready Reserves takes away from the reserve grid. I dont get it, ready reserves are reserves sitting reserve. But the company considers them to be on assignment. You cant be any more reserve then a ready reserve.
Wow i didn't know that. So basically they're just having their cake and eating it. When i was on RR there we're plenty of days where I did nothing.
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Old 09-02-2016, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by seminolepilot View Post
Wow i didn't know that. So basically they're just having their cake and eating it. When i was on RR there we're plenty of days where I did nothing.
Yeah, I think on all the days I sat ready (maybe 8-10) I was used twice. One day twice (which was a blast after an out and back became a five day) and another to do a repo. They like saving ready reserves for last, last, last resort.
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Old 09-02-2016, 06:56 AM
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16-04 is out with 50 upgrades, all in NY.
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Old 09-02-2016, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingmau5 View Post
16-04 is out with 50 upgrades, all in NY.
Came out 4 days ago.
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Old 09-02-2016, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SmitteyB View Post
Came out 4 days ago.
A little late to the party I guess.
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Old 09-02-2016, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Avroman View Post
Getting the interview, yes there are some that Delta would probably never call that get an interview with the program. As for getting hired... it's been a coin flip without rhyme or reason. If anything the success rate is better for people being called off the street than the SSP program (remember, off the street Delta selected you to interview, the SSP, they didn't) Overall, I'd call it a marketing gimmick, it's by no means a job at Delta down the road. It's simply an interview that you may or may not have been able to get sooner by other means.
Avroman has spent more time on APC talking and writing about how the SSP is worthless and whining about how flow was taken away from him years ago than he did preparing for his own interview. It's been wildly successful for those that prepared. Many ordinary but good guys would not have gotten a call in Delta's current hiring tier level, but were afforded the opportunity to interview because of the SSP, just as new guys will be able to with DGI. Those that prepared adequately by and far and large were successful. Sometimes it just doesn't seem to be so anymore if you only listen to crew room banter, as most of those that were successful are now gone, so you only get to hear from those that are left. And if you only listen to that, instead of looking at the data, you'll think nobody gets hired. Not true.

I too find it unfortunate when I hear about certain good guys that didn't get the job, but often I end up hearing they lacked in terms of spending enough time preparing. And the results would have been the same if they got it through an off the street interview. Except they likely wouldn't have gotten called for the OTS interview as apps get vetted and pulled when meeting tier criteria. It is over now, and those that did not put in for it or even attempt have zero excuse to whine about it.

Quit trying to belittle or take away from those successful in the process by likening it to a "coin toss". You singing that tune is getting old. And annoying. Also, Avroman, remember preaching to FOs at the company as well as APC about how "worthless" their FO CJOs were and how Delta won't honor them? Well, the first of about 250 FO CJOs head over this month. Hope you're not too disappointed with that.
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Old 09-02-2016, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingmau5 View Post
A little late to the party I guess.
Your enthusiasm is admirable.
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Old 09-02-2016, 07:10 PM
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I didn't factor the DGI into my decision to come here, mostly because it IS worthless.

I came for the base I was promised by the recruiters and the money. So far the paychecks from Pinnacle are cashing, but if I see another vacancy with nothing but NYC I'm out of here.
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Old 09-02-2016, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by musketeer View Post
I didn't factor the DGI into my decision to come here, mostly because it IS worthless.

I came for the base I was promised by the recruiters and the money. So far the paychecks from Pinnacle are cashing, but if I see another vacancy with nothing but NYC I'm out of here.
Ahh I see, DGI is already deemed worthless by you, similar to how Avroman declared SSP worthless? Awesome. Well, I guess with those attitudes it actually will be worthless... for some. Don't even bother.
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Old 09-02-2016, 07:21 PM
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Ahh I see, DGI is already deemed worthless by you, similar to how Avroman declared SSP worthless? Awesome. Well, I guess with those attitudes it actually will be worthless... for some. Don't even bother.
He's not wrong. SSP is contractual; DGI is not contractual. As such, there is nothing stopping Delta from pulling the rug out from under the DGI promise at a moments notice, should they decide to go down that route.
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