Avroman

I didn't say anything about FO CJO's being worthless, but those FO's moving along (mostly) won't help open up captain seats for the new FO's that need 2 years in those captain seats to get their interview chances.

I have no issue with anyone that got a CJO, good for them especially if Delta was their first choice, even better for those that used it to then quickly get hired by their first choice and leave for class right away rather than having to wait 18 months for a class date. As for the coin flip, well, yes ultimately the SSP has been pretty close to a coin flip in the % of job offers given.... this was not even close to what the company and ALPA sold us what the SSP would be during the bankruptcy. We were told we would have basically what PSA had, (a handshake, a coffee, and a class date) This clearly wasn't the case.
Do I think it was a major mistake to open up the program to FO's? Yes I do. Not because the FO's here didn't deserve an interview, but because it played right into Delta's hand to burn through the list as fast as possible leaving the maximum amount of pilots behind to keep Endeavor staffed (at least the 900's) for the foreseeable future. Not allowing the FO's in would have forced Delta to take more captains to meet the hiring minimums, opening up those seats for the FO's to upgrade and get their interviews (and opening up those seats for the current new hires down the road) instead it has largely clogged those seats with rejects who are ever more becoming lifers here. Take a poll of CR9 captains in DTW and MSP and tell me I'm wrong here.
As for me not being prepared, I went to the interview preps, I studied, I spent for a new suit and briefcase and electronic logbook printing. And at the end of the day was I crying when I didn't get my name called, nope. Was I ****ed that I was left to sit around for 20 minutes waiting to be told the obvious... Yup, but based on how I was talked to from the moment I stepped into the interview room, I wasn't shocked at all. I've talked to plenty of people with and without job offers and the treatment was starkly different right from the start for most. The yes group was like sitting around the campfire with a 6 pack with old buddies, the no group was basically crapped on from the moment they sat down. This tells me that the decks were stacked before showing up. The so called "luck of the draw panel"...Hell of a way to hire there guys
I didn't cry then, I'm not now, There are other fish in the pond (some I'd rather swim with anyway) and the trip to Atlanta has hopefully helped prepare me for when one of them calls for an interview. If not, Endeavor has turned into an OK place to be. Ok, it's been a long day, time to drop the mic and crack a beer.... Peace

Avroman

I think you can get either (as long as your address would be one leg on Delta to the TDY base)

JesuitValen

Take it easy. Next interview will work out. Saw a few senior guys getting a hard on for FedEx last year and theyve already prepped for the interview by doing Delta. Hopefully everyone lands somewhere good soon.

Regional hell is almost over.

SmitteyB

You only receive travel from your permanent domicile.

And also you don't get it every trip. Contract says only 2 times per TDY month.

Slaveaway

So if guys with no degrees received a CJO with Delta, the interview is truly yours to lose?

Debating what makes sense. Wait for my turn with the DGI in 2-3 years or start applying at some LCCs..

Five93H

Already know a few guys who have returned to 121 get calls from Spirit and others. They seemed happy with the decision, as it would be a home base for them. Could get a call from DL, UAL, and the like after a year or two at Spirit anyways.

Bartok

Hey Smittey,

I've been doing it to MSP for the last 2 months.

It's from your residence to the TDY domicile and back home.

And it's 3 Positive spaces to work and 3 positive spaces home per month.

It's written in a hard to understand way in the contract.

SmitteyB

Wow! I apologize. I wish I had known that I was MSP TDY in August and didn't use it at all

I'm sorry for steering you guys in the wrong direction.

greygoose

Once crew planning schedules your positive space seats, can the flights be changed? I.e. Released early able to catch earlier flight. I'm told if you miss a flight on a round trip it voids the return. Not sure if scheduling can/will rescheduled positive space ticket.

Bartok

Not sure about scheduling but planning can.

I would sure try scheduling though!