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09-27-2016, 07:03 AM

#7011

slowyourroll

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Originally Posted by flyingmau5

So this got me thinking... I'm currently a 900 FO and due for recurrent (rgs/sim) in October and got awarded upgrade class on the 200 in November. My last training event was back in May of this year when I did differences from the 2 to the 9.

Is there anything in our contract language that allows me to "skip" recurrent and just go for the upgrade training? The training cycle just doesn't make sense to me. Anyone who have been in this similar situation or currently in it right now?

I seem to recall some people trying to do this recently. They weren't able to do it as the upgrade allegedly doesn't check all the boxes of recurrent. But my memory of the conversation might be off. I'd contact training about it.

09-27-2016, 11:09 AM

#7012

Five93H

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Originally Posted by flyingmau5

Don't think so. Not exactly the same but I had buddies who did differences 200 to 900 within a year and still had to do recurrent.

09-27-2016, 11:12 AM

#7013

higney85

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CQ (recurrent) and upgrade don't check the same boxes so you will still need to do recurrent.

09-27-2016, 12:00 PM

#7014

gojo

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Originally Posted by higney85

CQ (recurrent) and upgrade don't check the same boxes so you will still need to do recurrent.

Exactly, your base month will remain the same

09-28-2016, 10:27 AM

#7015

Slaveaway

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I wonder how Envoys announcement of reopening a NYC base(s) will affect pilot hiring at 9E.

09-28-2016, 11:37 AM

#7016

flynfish77

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Originally Posted by Slaveaway

I wonder how Envoys announcement of reopening a NYC base(s) will affect pilot hiring at 9E.

^^^ Truth....
If the bonus were rolled into the pay scale making the salaries nearly equal the seemingly better schedules, reserve, upgrades etc. at Endeavor should keep them in good shape.

09-28-2016, 12:40 PM

#7017

mooney

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Originally Posted by flyingmau5

Mainly the lack of hazmat and security training is the reason this is a no go.

09-28-2016, 03:55 PM

#7018

Nantonaku

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Originally Posted by flynfish77

^^^ Truth....
If the bonus were rolled into the pay scale making the salaries nearly equal the seemingly better schedules, reserve, upgrades etc. at Endeavor should keep them in good shape.

The bonus is a better deal, I would rather see the bonus extended than higher pay rates.

09-28-2016, 03:59 PM

#7019

crjscum

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Originally Posted by Nantonaku

The bonus is a better deal, I would rather see the bonus extended than higher pay rates.

I would agree, on the months when I stick with my 75 hr line. But not the 120+ credit months. Looks like you enjoy days off and I can respect that, but pay rates would better for most; that is, the right pay rates would be better for most. Rsv not so much unfortunately. Maybe raise the min guarantee for those guys.