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Old 09-29-2016, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by crjscum View Post
These are things that management is well aware of, and when we get a pay raise by the end of the year you can thank AAG for it.
My point was its going to take more then a pay raise now..... or it better be a very BIG raise to out weigh the flow at AAG.
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Old 09-29-2016, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kforekyle View Post
Flow/ Staple plus $25.55 per hr. raise for everyone not just a select group. Pilot shortage COMPLETELY SOLVED!!!!
I would agree with you Kyle. If you want to end the shortage you have to go for it, Or we will keep coming back to the table every3-6 months to renegotiate. Seems like thats a waste of time and money.
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Old 09-29-2016, 02:59 PM
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I would agree with you Kyle. If you want to end the shortage you have to go for it, Or we will keep coming back to the table every3-6 months to renegotiate. Seems like thats a waste of time and money.
Management 101: Can't Predict the Future. React, don't get proactive. The great success stories are always some story about a proactive strategy that worked, but they don't make that gamble every day. You gotta remember, Lorenzo was right for 25-30 years, and he may prove to be right again. We should still have good jobs with good pay for a while, enjoy it.
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Old 09-29-2016, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kforekyle View Post
Flow/ Staple plus $25.55 per hr. raise for everyone not just a select group. Pilot shortage COMPLETELY SOLVED!!!!
In my opinion... ain't going to happen. Unless somehow the DL hiring department has a major overhaul. NO SHORTAGE OF LEGACY PILOTS. Delta will be able to select their pilots for a long time. Regionals will come and go....and will continue that way until solidarity....which will probably never happen because ALPA doesn't represent the regional pilots as a whole. Broken system
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Old 09-29-2016, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumyum View Post
In my opinion... ain't going to happen. Unless somehow the DL hiring department has a major overhaul. NO SHORTAGE OF LEGACY PILOTS. Delta will be able to select their pilots for a long time. Regionals will come and go....and will continue that way until solidarity....which will probably never happen because ALPA doesn't represent the regional pilots as a whole. Broken system
American would be able to hire fine as well. The flow isn't for the major, but to entice people to go to their regional.
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Old 09-29-2016, 08:54 PM
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American would be able to hire fine as well. The flow isn't for the major, but to entice people to go to their regional.
Finally someone gets it!
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Old 09-30-2016, 05:32 AM
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Gets it? Are you an Endeavor recruiter? Who wouldn't want a job in their back pocket while they look for other work! Give me a break son!
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Old 09-30-2016, 07:41 AM
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As I read the memo posted on another site, the SSP said 144 OR 30% of new hires, whichever is less.

The 131 will be 30% of Delta's new hires for 2015. No broken promises, it just means 13 pilots will move over 4-6 weeks later than expected.

It's all in how you interpret things - you glazed over the part that said 9E will offer close to 350 Captain Upgrades in 2016 - 29+ per month! Why not talk about that?
Just curious after looking back at some old posts. How close have they come to the 350 CUG/29+ Per month in 2016?
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Old 09-30-2016, 08:54 AM
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Just off the initial notices they asked for 275 upgrades so far this year. One more notice will come out before the end of the year.

And I believe the actual number of upgrades is a little higher. If it follows the same trend as the first 4 will put it very close to 350 for calendar year 16.
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Old 09-30-2016, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdman2 View Post
Gets it? Are you an Endeavor recruiter? Who wouldn't want a job in their back pocket while they look for other work! Give me a break son!
What the he$$ are you talking about. The majors aren't having that much of a problem staffing right now, but the regionals are. They need solid pay,solid work rules and solid career progression(staple/flow) to keep the aircraft staffed.
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