Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
10-22-2016, 10:33 AM
#7511
spin 2
Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: the big one
Posts: 437
Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
And you don't think AA can take the flow away at any time? Sure it may be contractual, but the time and money the union will have to send to grieve it will take years for it to shake out.
Unless you either have a DUI, no college degree or are simply impossible to sit with for a 4 day trip, you don't need a flow, simply because of the retirement numbers you just mentioned. The problem is that the millennial, entitlement generation doesn't want to work for things, especially the ones under 25 who haven't done anything but school, instruct and go to a regional. They want handed things, they don't work for them. They wouldn't know what a hard working pilot job is if hit them in the face.
Unless you either have a DUI, no college degree or are simply impossible to sit with for a 4 day trip, you don't need a flow, simply because of the retirement numbers you just mentioned. The problem is that the millennial, entitlement generation doesn't want to work for things, especially the ones under 25 who haven't done anything but school, instruct and go to a regional. They want handed things, they don't work for them. They wouldn't know what a hard working pilot job is if hit them in the face.
10-22-2016, 11:50 AM
#7513
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: CaptFo
Posts: 997
Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
And you don't think AA can take the flow away at any time? Sure it may be contractual, but the time and money the union will have to send to grieve it will take years for it to shake out.
Unless you either have a DUI, no college degree or are simply impossible to sit with for a 4 day trip, you don't need a flow, simply because of the retirement numbers you just mentioned. The problem is that the millennial, entitlement generation doesn't want to work for things, especially the ones under 25 who haven't done anything but school, instruct and go to a regional. They want handed things, they don't work for them. They wouldn't know what a hard working pilot job is if hit them in the face.
Unless you either have a DUI, no college degree or are simply impossible to sit with for a 4 day trip, you don't need a flow, simply because of the retirement numbers you just mentioned. The problem is that the millennial, entitlement generation doesn't want to work for things, especially the ones under 25 who haven't done anything but school, instruct and go to a regional. They want handed things, they don't work for them. They wouldn't know what a hard working pilot job is if hit them in the face.
I disagree also, I'm flying with tons of so called...."millennial's"... seems most have worked/busted their arse to get where they are.
10-22-2016, 01:19 PM
#7514
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 365
No one of any generation is owed anything in this career with the exception of an ex-wife and a furlough. I feel for guys at Comair who started to demand a staple or even other 9E guys who got turned down by Delta, but at no point does anyone owe you career advancement. That's 100% on you.
Be the best possible version of yourself at work, stay clean and professional, and if the world has any justice to it you won't be condemned to flying a Canadian Reset Jet your whole life.
Be the best possible version of yourself at work, stay clean and professional, and if the world has any justice to it you won't be condemned to flying a Canadian Reset Jet your whole life.
10-22-2016, 05:00 PM
#7515
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: CaptFo
Posts: 997
[QUOTE=AnotherWriter;2229120]No one of any generation is owed anything in this career with the exception of an ex-wife and a furlough. I feel for guys at Comair who started to demand a staple or even other 9E guys who got turned down by Delta, but at no point does anyone owe you career advancement. That's 100% on you.
Be the best possible version of yourself at work, stay clean and professional, and if the world has any justice to it you won't be condemned to flying a Canadian Reset Jet your whole life
If Canadian reset jet pilots got paid what they deserve, who gives a crap what you fly!
Be the best possible version of yourself at work, stay clean and professional, and if the world has any justice to it you won't be condemned to flying a Canadian Reset Jet your whole life
If Canadian reset jet pilots got paid what they deserve, who gives a crap what you fly!
10-22-2016, 05:54 PM
#7516
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 183
[QUOTE=Yumyum;2229228]
True true!
Originally Posted by AnotherWriter
No one of any generation is owed anything in this career with the exception of an ex-wife and a furlough. I feel for guys at Comair who started to demand a staple or even other 9E guys who got turned down by Delta, but at no point does anyone owe you career advancement. That's 100% on you.
Be the best possible version of yourself at work, stay clean and professional, and if the world has any justice to it you won't be condemned to flying a Canadian Reset Jet your whole life
If Canadian reset jet pilots got paid what they deserve, who gives a crap what you fly!
Be the best possible version of yourself at work, stay clean and professional, and if the world has any justice to it you won't be condemned to flying a Canadian Reset Jet your whole life
If Canadian reset jet pilots got paid what they deserve, who gives a crap what you fly!
10-22-2016, 06:09 PM
#7517
Property of Scheduling
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: Bus driver
Posts: 2,524
Stop generalizing. Every generation will have the folks who worked hard and made it far, worked hard and fell short, didn't work and got lucky, and those who went with the flow (at the time) and followed a trend.
Don't generalize. Take every person for how they carry themselves, how they perform, and a background only for reference after the performance. As soon as you start labeling, you fall back in your own forward motion.
Feel free to start an argument otherwise, but bring your facts. Guys are coming in from instructor ranks who have "it" down in training and blow the gen X folks away, the opposite also applies. There are folks who have been flying for 10 years as a 121 FO who fail upgrade, and others who excel as soon as they are legal. This industry is based on knowledge, mindset, and experience. All must equal 100%, but the distribution matters. You can't predict it, nor generalize it by age or categorical mindset.
As soon as you start putting folks in buckets, you will find that you are at the bottom of every scale imaginable. Be your best, that's all you can do. In the end, it will show.
Don't generalize. Take every person for how they carry themselves, how they perform, and a background only for reference after the performance. As soon as you start labeling, you fall back in your own forward motion.
Feel free to start an argument otherwise, but bring your facts. Guys are coming in from instructor ranks who have "it" down in training and blow the gen X folks away, the opposite also applies. There are folks who have been flying for 10 years as a 121 FO who fail upgrade, and others who excel as soon as they are legal. This industry is based on knowledge, mindset, and experience. All must equal 100%, but the distribution matters. You can't predict it, nor generalize it by age or categorical mindset.
As soon as you start putting folks in buckets, you will find that you are at the bottom of every scale imaginable. Be your best, that's all you can do. In the end, it will show.
10-23-2016, 08:13 AM
#7518
Bracing for Fallacies
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
Posts: 3,543
Can anyone answer this please, whether on the board or via private message; what happens in your first few days of captain upgrade class? (I'm staying on the same plane.) Particularly, is there a closed book systems test the end of the first day? Before anyone gets fired up, yes, I've been studying all the manuals, AIM, doing LMS, etc. I'm not worried so much as curious. Thank you.
10-23-2016, 08:37 AM
#7519
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Posts: 465
Originally Posted by block30
Can anyone answer this please, whether on the board or via private message; what happens in your first few days of captain upgrade class? (I'm staying on the same plane.) Particularly, is there a closed book systems test the end of the first day? Before anyone gets fired up, yes, I've been studying all the manuals, AIM, doing LMS, etc. I'm not worried so much as curious. Thank you.
10-23-2016, 02:52 PM
#7520
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 471
Originally Posted by AnotherWriter
No one of any generation is owed anything in this career with the exception of an ex-wife and a furlough. I feel for guys at Comair who started to demand a staple or even other 9E guys who got turned down by Delta, but at no point does anyone owe you career advancement. That's 100% on you.
Be the best possible version of yourself at work, stay clean and professional, and if the world has any justice to it you won't be condemned to flying a Canadian Reset Jet your whole life.
Be the best possible version of yourself at work, stay clean and professional, and if the world has any justice to it you won't be condemned to flying a Canadian Reset Jet your whole life.
We have laws in this country to try to maintain equality between race and gender or groups of people, but somehow its still ok to discriminate against regional pilots.
Simple Definition of discriminate:
to unfairly treat a person or "GROUP OF PEOPLE" differently from other people or groups
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