Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
#7611
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These are second interviews... so 4 of thirteen people who were told no the first time redeemed themselves and now have a job with Delta. Last I checked total accepted between first and second interviews was nearly 70%. While not a flow, a huge portion of our pilot population has been accepted by Delta through this program. "Sour grapes" comes to mind when I see a post like this.
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#7616
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If you're gonna have the conversation on your own that's fine just don't quote a post and have your conversation. It looked like a simple misunderstanding I was trying to correct you on.
For various reasons people at this company feel the need to defend and cheerlead the ssp. I hope the readers can keep in mind the obviousness that the SSP apparently needs to be defended. The ssp is over, the GIP is here now. We have no data on the GIP. On a flow we have a very clear understanding of its "pass rate".
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I was off and couldn't make it. Any news on where exactly they were coming from? Or when we would get exact details? I'm mostly curious about where the flying will be, I'm hoping for growth anywhere outside of NYC. I'm not sure if people have realized, but SkyWest has about 15 more flights per day than us in both MSP and DTW now that we've moved to NYC.
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I'm curious how many junior FOs with little seniority to give up are considering moves to the AA WOs. As far as the merits of the SSP and DGI, that's a horse thats been beaten beyond death. Candidates believe that we have lousy career progression compared to AA regionals. Will we see recruiting suffer or attrition? Time will tell.
Filling classes is only half of the battle. Movement off the top to the majors has to happen as well.
Filling classes is only half of the battle. Movement off the top to the majors has to happen as well.
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Depends what you're calling original, but lets be clear. There was a claim of a 70% pass rate after second interview, then a conclusion that thered be massive movement. So someone pointed out much less than 70% participated in the ssp.
If you're gonna have the conversation on your own that's fine just don't quote a post and have your conversation. It looked like a simple misunderstanding I was trying to correct you on.
For various reasons people at this company feel the need to defend and cheerlead the ssp. I hope the readers can keep in mind the obviousness that the SSP apparently needs to be defended. The ssp is over, the GIP is here now. We have no data on the GIP. On a flow we have a very clear understanding of its "pass rate".
If you're gonna have the conversation on your own that's fine just don't quote a post and have your conversation. It looked like a simple misunderstanding I was trying to correct you on.
For various reasons people at this company feel the need to defend and cheerlead the ssp. I hope the readers can keep in mind the obviousness that the SSP apparently needs to be defended. The ssp is over, the GIP is here now. We have no data on the GIP. On a flow we have a very clear understanding of its "pass rate".
#7620
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[QUOTE=wmichflyer;2233223]I'm curious how many junior FOs with little seniority to give up are considering moves to the AA WOs. As far as the merits of the SSP and DGI, that's a horse thats been beaten beyond death. Candidates believe that we have lousy career progression compared to AA regionals. Will we see recruiting suffer or attrition? Time will tell.
That's the major question. I'd be willing to bet close to 97% of the top 200 wouldn't take a job offer at Delta. Numbers 200-400 95%yes. After that almost all willing to move on. If I had to do it all over again, I would choose AA WO's in a heartbeat. I have buddies heading to American early next year that we're hired around the same time at the regionals. Sure it took a long time, but in the end it worked out for them.
I know that getting a invite to Delta is a major deal. But I still scratch my head on their hiring process. Some major head scratchers were given a CJO...oh well congrats to them! But AA clearly ( In my opinion) is a much better long term deal. I don't see Delta offering a flow, even though their pilots sit in our Jumpseat's and talk about career progression, and how a solid path to Delta would open the flood gates for new hires.
That's the major question. I'd be willing to bet close to 97% of the top 200 wouldn't take a job offer at Delta. Numbers 200-400 95%yes. After that almost all willing to move on. If I had to do it all over again, I would choose AA WO's in a heartbeat. I have buddies heading to American early next year that we're hired around the same time at the regionals. Sure it took a long time, but in the end it worked out for them.
I know that getting a invite to Delta is a major deal. But I still scratch my head on their hiring process. Some major head scratchers were given a CJO...oh well congrats to them! But AA clearly ( In my opinion) is a much better long term deal. I don't see Delta offering a flow, even though their pilots sit in our Jumpseat's and talk about career progression, and how a solid path to Delta would open the flood gates for new hires.
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