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Old 12-04-2016, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Five93H View Post
Everything about HPN is just god awful, no exceptions.

Would be nice to see some love come back to DTW200...
I got the hell off of the 200 while the getting was good. Unless you are based in NYC there is zero movement. Not worth my time.
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Old 12-04-2016, 05:09 PM
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And moved to the EDV Heavy, where movement is even slower?


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I got the hell off of the 200 while the getting was good. Unless you are based in NYC there is zero movement. Not worth my time.
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Old 12-04-2016, 05:16 PM
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Slow movement eh? Must be rough... I'm not saying it's great but just because you aren't top of the FO list in 9 months does not make it slow. It's cyclical, give the NY growth it's time and then something else will happen. Or maybe the sky is falling...
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Old 12-04-2016, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyKilo View Post
I got the hell off of the 200 while the getting was good. Unless you are based in NYC there is zero movement. Not worth my time.
Depends, at my spot on the list, 200 is still better than 900. At this point, don't want to switch to the 900 and then upgrade back to the 200 for Detroit. Not counting on being able to hold D9C within a decade. Maybe short term "pain" but I don't want to jump jet to jet, training event to event.

Dual qual has been hinted at by a few, so I'll get the privilege of flying the heavy and using the DTW A gates then (except for Sagnasty!)".

If we add more 200s as hinted, things could get good again.

@Iceberg. No sky falling, just looking forward to things swinging around again, no panic stations here.
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Old 12-04-2016, 05:27 PM
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A bit of level headedness. I like it!
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Old 12-04-2016, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Five93H View Post
Depends, at my spot on the list, 200 is still better than 900. At this point, don't want to switch to the 900 and then upgrade back to the 200 for Detroit. Not counting on being able to hold D9C within a decade. Maybe short term "pain" but I don't want to jump jet to jet, training event to event.

If we add more 200s as hinted, things could get good again.

@Iceberg. No sky falling, just looking forward to things swinging around again, no panic stations here.
After I lost my line on the DTW 200 in August I would rather take a line (which I can hold in DTW on the 900) and slow progression than reserve and unpredictable movement. If that makes me crazy I'm ok with that. I'm in no rush to upgrade or get to mainline. Living in base with a line is pretty good QoL.
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Old 12-04-2016, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyKilo View Post
After I lost my line on the DTW 200 in August I would rather take a line (which I can hold in DTW on the 900) and slow progression than reserve and unpredictable movement. If that makes me crazy I'm ok with that. I'm in no rush to upgrade or get to mainline. Living in base with a line is pretty good QoL.
Living in base on reserve could be ok especially if the drop airport reserve. Pick up trip on off days to add to the 75 hours and you'll make as much as a line holder with fewer days of true work.
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Old 12-04-2016, 08:11 PM
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[QUOTE=AnotherWriter;2255475]Unless it's NYC. I had one really rough departure out of there when I was first starting out... the 'ol Whitestone off 13 and because I was handflying we got really, concerningly far, behind the aircraft. Bad CRM, too much workload. It's just safer to use George in NY. Besides, we get to practice the handflying on the Expressway every other day.

I'm happy to see people in this thread talking about actually handflying though.[/QUOTE

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Old 12-04-2016, 08:35 PM
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Behind the aircraft on a standard SID? I get NY is busy but if you get that far behind something is wrong. Tell ATC standby, fly the aircraft, and yes if you need the A/P push it on. What happens if it does not engage or kicks off? What happens if you lose and engine? My point, it's a discussion not an attack, you should be able to hand fly any aircraft at any time and keep it within the limtis of the a/c and the SID or route. It's called being a pilot. If guys/gals flew 727s and other aircraft, for years, out of the place, you should too.
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Old 12-05-2016, 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by truthsayer View Post
Thanks for the informative reply.

NY shrinking was a joke but the question about why TDY to MSP and DTW was not a joke.

Looking for someone to comment that may have some insight. Otherwise we wait until the lines come out.

Go OU!
Because they can only TDY out of DTW 3 months in a row, then they need to do a TDY into DTW to reset the 3 months TDY out. They don't want to displace captains so they've been playing this TDY game instead.
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