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#141
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,465
"violated any of your safe places" ??? LOL
Perhaps you should re-read your post and our replies.
I think you're right that some of the points the OP brings up are a bit whiny/entitled. However, several of his points are straight up valid points for being disgruntled. And once you're disgruntled, all the other little things pile on.
And what is your definition of 'comments still being made'? Because the thread hadn't been officially closed? Ok, that's fine. It's just odd. Particularly with the one sided slant.
Perhaps you should re-read your post and our replies.
I think you're right that some of the points the OP brings up are a bit whiny/entitled. However, several of his points are straight up valid points for being disgruntled. And once you're disgruntled, all the other little things pile on.
And what is your definition of 'comments still being made'? Because the thread hadn't been officially closed? Ok, that's fine. It's just odd. Particularly with the one sided slant.
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#142
Banned
Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 215
I’m sorry guys I guess I’m a little confused, I thought this was a forum. I just recently joined and, despite this being over a year old, comments were still being made and I thought I was welcome to state mine. Maybe if I had more than one post, my opinions would have more validity and possibly not trolled to such a level. Please forgive me if I’ve violated any of your safe places.
#143
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,659
It’s amazing to me the number of over-privaledged, under-experienced men and women who think because they have a piece of paper they are entitled to instant success. Hard work is exactly that, hard work, and arriving at the regionals is hardly the end of it. For those who have the character and fortitude to persevere through the hard beginning years of airline experience, a rewarding and lucrative future is theirs. For those with unrealistic expectations, as is the case with this impatient pilot, discouragement and disgruntlement usually follow when those inflated expectations pop. The rest of us are rewarded with a seniority boost.
With that said, we are allowed to voice our opinions. The professionalisms you preach and fortitude you claim we need has proven itself out. We get the job done and we still do it better than most, despite our current predicament . Kudos on an super old thread.
#145
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Position: Resigned
Posts: 1,547
Surprised anyone at mainline is against us making the same as PSA. I realize it feels good to talk down to people making 1/10th of what you do, and teach them hard lessons about life etc, but honestly the less of a discount AA gets us at, the more flying/hiring is going to be at mainline as a proportion of the whole. That’s good for everyone, except those who otherwise wouldn’t be airline pilots if not for the lower hiring standards of the regionals.
#146
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 3,659
Surprised anyone at mainline is against us making the same as PSA. I realize it feels good to talk down to people making 1/10th of what you do, and teach them hard lessons about life etc, but honestly the less of a discount AA gets us at, the more flying/hiring is going to be at mainline as a proportion of the whole. That’s good for everyone, except those who otherwise wouldn’t be airline pilots if not for the lower hiring standards of the regionals.
#147
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Read my first response to “AA’s” posting. Pretty sure this is a troll post, maybe even Mgt. “New” to the forum and chose to post on this first? This person still only has two posts to their name, the original and “why can’t I have an opinion?” response to me questioning their agenda.
#148
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Joined APC: May 2017
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 1,285
Read my first response to “AA’s” posting. Pretty sure this is a troll post, maybe even Mgt. “New” to the forum and chose to post on this first? This person still only has two posts to their name, the original and “why can’t I have an opinion?” response to me questioning their agenda.
#149
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
#150
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,465
Speaking of, there is this one AA guy that commutes from the same town I do, former military too. Every time one of us Envoy guys gets the jumpseat over him because its our equipment, he goes into a loud rant that all can hear about flying ‘these people’ all over the world and he can’t even get on a flight home because of all of us other non-revs take up all the seats. Non-revs hear him, revenue passengers hear him, gate agents hear him. He’s probably one of the guys posting over there complaining.
That’s not to poke at all AA former military guys. We have others that commute too and they’re nice and respectful but your post was so close to on point for him I couldn’t help but laugh.
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