SheepDogg

If by "walked away" you mean fired, then yes you most certainly walked away, while crying if memory serves. I truly hope you enjoy your job at Allegiant, its likely as far as your career will every go in this industry.

itsmytime

I agree with you fully. The point is, if you love flying, it's very hard to find satisfaction sitting in a cubicle. Not that you should take whatever scraps are thrown at you.

HanSoolu

You're missing the point of why I wrote this post. It had nothing to do with me. Yes, I found it pertinent to add a bit of my personal history at the beginning, but you are sorely mistaken if you believe that these are my sentiments, and only mine.

You assume that I had no work experience in the field prior to college. You assume that you're telling me something I don't know.
You are not. This has been a carefully calculated decision. I don't know you, but if you think you know me after reading a couple paragraphs about me, you're mistaken.

To those of you saying that I'm a "whiner:" I am not trying to complain. I'm trying to shed light on what is going on at Envoy. If anything, this is going to help you guys, as less people will be recruited. When recruitment dwindles, you will receive your beloved increase in pay.

Until then, I have no idea why some of you feel like taking your frustrations with the industry out on me.

Please. Either refute my points, add to the discussion, or move along. Attacking me as a person is not solving anything.

ceelo

except that everything is getting better. if he doesn't like envoy he should indeed find another better paying job with better QoL if he likes flying. but no, he's been through 3 regionals, so like I said it's better if he just stays out of the industry, because he will never be happy looking for the perfect regional job that frankly doesn't exist.

ceelo

I do agree that envoy isn't the best. but in my opinion envoy is very reactionary. once hiring slows down then yes they'll change.

if you don't want this to be about you, don't add any of your personal history, period. because frankly, you do bring up a lot of good points but your entire post comes off as whining about your life.

I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors.

HanSoolu

Unfortunately, you can't take this to law. See Point #8 about the RLA and System Board of Adjustment. It's an unfortunate reality about the transportation industry.

Your last point is true. I have no true passion for 121 Flying. I would much prefer to keep it in the world of GA and Flight Instruct on the weekends. Maybe take the wife for a $100 burger every now and then. But the 121 world? It's not for me. I'm looking for a regional that will stay true to what they put on paper. In this day and age, that just doesn't exist.

Your first sentence though. I'm gonna need you to back that up with some evidence.

I merely did that for those that may be in a similar position. Either career changes, or those getting out of college. But let's be honest: pilots love talking about themselves.

Thank you, and thank you to those that wish me success elsewhere.

3EngineTaxi

What is getting better? Vacation? Pay? Flow? Schedules? Days off? I can't think of anything.

Subpilot

Going back three years ago:
Commuter hotels
Retention bonuses
High starting salary for FOs
Short upgrade
2 bases returned

There are more but this list covers the big ones that affects the entire group in a “better” way.

ag386

If it helps you sleep at night to indulge in your fantasy above, by all means knock yourself out.

What's important is that I am no longer at the dirtbag company known as envoy. Like you and your recruiter salesmen like to say here, the legacy floodgates are about to be thrown wide open. I'm thinking my Bus PIC is the same or better than your regional jet PIC.

Hope you enjoy your stay at envoy waiting for that imploding flow. Looks like your wait is going to be quite a few years.

ceelo

yeah, this is what i meant to everyone asking