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01-02-2018, 03:46 PM

#11

AV8LAW

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Joined APC: Nov 2017

Posts: 9

You may have just saved a life.
I know hiring just dropped by one. No on the fence now. Have spoken with a few people but this seals it

01-02-2018, 03:52 PM

#12

bigtime209

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Joined APC: Jun 2006

Posts: 1,523

Quote:

Originally Posted by ag386

I agree with HanSoolu. I left envoy for Allegiant 2 years ago and was told what an idiot I was for "walking away from the flow." Looks like I was correct. The flow is bogus and will never work as the envoy recruiters and salesmen claimed it would. I'm in the left seat of the Bus now. Worlds better than anything envoy has to offer.

Just out of curiosity, what was your original DOH at Eagle?

01-02-2018, 03:59 PM

#13

Jsch

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Joined APC: Mar 2017

Posts: 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by HanSoolu

I personally know of three separate instances where this has happened.

Although there may be more of a backstory that I do not know, something seems odd here. And I don't know if I blame the pilots or the company.

Completely FALSE! I’ve called in on probation and nothing happened! Yes I had to go in a talk with CPO but it was simply to review the attendance policy. No questions were asked about my sickness, no doctor’s note requested.

Thanks for the seniority bump!!

01-02-2018, 04:07 PM

#14

TheRaven

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Joined APC: Nov 2014

Position: B787 FO

Posts: 295

3 different regionals?

No offense, but you sound like the kind of guy who would stub his toe on a gold brick and complain. You're a non-hacker, who couldn't persevere at 3 different regionals, who is bailing from the industry, and just want to watch the world burn.

No regional is all sunshine and rainbows, but it's a means to an end.

Good luck in accounting....

01-02-2018, 04:16 PM

#15

Jamesthunder

Open Time

Joined APC: Aug 2017

Posts: 182

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jsch

I only did half of that. When I went in for a sick call, CPO asked who died when I went out on bereavement and then said I was all squared away. "Pretty harmless right?" "Yea that hardest part was finding the office."

01-02-2018, 04:16 PM

#16

HanSoolu

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Joined APC: Jan 2018

Posts: 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRaven

I'm not gonna respond to your attacks on me as a person. I will respond to anything you refute about the current conditions at Envoy. Since we don't have a 757, I think you're in the wrong forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRaven

No regional is all sunshine and rainbows, but it's a means to an end.

I never said they were sunshine and rainbows. But when I came to Envoy I thought "it can't be THAT bad." Well, it is THAT bad. Shame on me for not listening to the complaints of the pilots at the time.

01-02-2018, 04:25 PM

#17

Inop2

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Joined APC: Feb 2017

Posts: 263

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armybeatnavy

I’m sorry you have had a bad experience at Envoy. From your post I can see the frustration and I understand. There are a few things I disagree with you on. First is the flight benefits. I do think we (the wholly owned) have the best flights benefits in the regional level. The wife and I have travelled on over 70 flights last years and never had an issue. Second my experience on the CRJ has been completely different. I was junior manned once last year and declined to do it. I went in and spoke to the chief pilot and it was all cleared. Also I called in sick during my probationary period and I was not fired. I would never put safety in second. By no means am I defending the company but at the same time I feel your post shows angles of frustration and that leads to certain truths being stretch out a bit. Hope all is well man. I’ll see you on the line.

Essayons

A fair response and close to my experience. I was sick 3 times last year, called in and never heard a word from the CP. Also needed a week off for my sons destination wedding and the CP dropped a sequence off my schedule to make the time. My CP is not in NY.

Health benefits are more affordable than Endeavors...I’ve done the anylasis.

Flight benefits have been good.

Your comments about schedules are more accurate in my experience. And the places we fly are Nowheresville USA.

Understand the frustration, maybe I’ll be there in a year or 2 but it has not been my experience. I’d kill myself before sitting in a cube for hours looking at Schedule K’s and deferred income; etc but you may enjoy it and at least you’ll be bring in some serious $$.

01-02-2018, 04:26 PM

#18

Seaplane

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Posts: 135

#22 Envoy doesn’t have massaging seat cushions for the pilots.

Is Envoy perfect? NO. But I mean damn, it’s NOT that bad.

Times are changing and the company will eventually have make changes, hopefully for the better. Change isn’t accomplished overnight. Regional flying is entering a new age and I think the best days are still to come. Flow, pay, schedules....ect

A bad day in a cockpit is still better than a 8-4 desk job with a nagging boss.

Show up on time, enjoy the flight, and remember to get a water bottle before you go to the hotel. Smile it can always be worse....

01-02-2018, 04:32 PM

#19

Pawnee235

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Joined APC: Sep 2017

Posts: 10

If this is the most unbearable job you’ve ever had, you’ve had a good life.

01-02-2018, 04:41 PM

#20

EnyFlyr

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Joined APC: Sep 2017

Posts: 177

In all fairness the chief pilot in NY did tell me not to call in sick because that was not going to look good if God forbid something happens and they have to look at my file.. he gave me a hard time when I mentioned my wife was due soon and I had to take time off.. I went in for basic indoc on my day off so I was wearing a regular coat, so he started mentioning not to wear any coats that are not part of the uniform, all the while his dirty Converse were peeking out from underneath his desk..