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Originally Posted by TransWorld
Thanks. So the forecast is in 05/2020 the 10/11/2011 hire will flow. That is about 8 1/2 years, down from the 11+ years today.
I know some (I do not name names) here will call me a lier; will say I am an Envoy recruiter, am Envoy management, am drinking the Envoy cool aid, and am green and inexperienced. I can assure you I am none of these. But I can do math. These are what the facts say.
You aren't a liar. You might be a recruiter or management. Or, you could just be a greenhorn newby to the airline industry and the stars in your eyes from those big AA jets that Envoy recruiters promised you would be sitting in 5 years from now.
Look at the False Advertising thread. There's a lot of sense there. Yes, you can do math like many, but does that 8.5 years you come up with include months where AA doesn't hire or the month of December when there are no flows? Let's just say that the 8.5 years is correct and will happen right on schedule. It's still 8.5 years! That's a long time to be abused by Envoy.
You still cannot call 8.5 years a FACT at this point. You can call it a projection. The only FACT you have right now is the current guy who just flowed. So, a bit over 11 years to flow. I agree that the flow time will come down from 11 years to more like the 8.5 you mention. And that's IF, Envoy increases pay and benefits to attract the few remaining qualified aviators available willing to suffer abuse at the hands of a harsh taskmaster.
Take a look at Envoy's situation. It's precarious with the need for Captain's going unfilled. Hiring inexperienced guys with no 121 will just perpetuate this problem going forward. A reckoning is coming. Envoy will not flow 25 Captain's in a month if it requires them to park airplanes due to lack of Captain crew.