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02-21-2018 | 01:01 PM

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moon

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Originally Posted by bourbon scamp

Sorry if this was already brought up elsewhere, but doesn't the fact that we are short on CA's and fat on FO's negatively impact flow? If we don't have FO's upgrading, there are fewer captains to flow, therefore pushing back everyone's timeline. Granted it's understandable why FO's are not wanting to force upgrade, but it's just a thought. I'll hang up and listen.

Yes we need FOs to upgrade. The complaint is the company should be doing something to incentivize the upgrade. Instead of forcing people to upgrade not on their own terms.

02-21-2018 | 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bourbon scamp

Isn’t Envoys flow based on total pilots like Piedmont and not eligible CAs like PSA? If so, FOs don’t have to upgrade to flow so the ration of CA:FO has no effect on the timeline.

02-21-2018 | 01:16 PM

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Ah ok learned something new .

02-21-2018 | 01:20 PM

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E175 Driver

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Originally Posted by moon

Yes we need FOs to upgrade. The complaint is the company should be doing something to incentivize the upgrade. Instead of forcing people to upgrade not on their own terms.

Left seat for me on the next go around!

02-21-2018 | 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by E175 Driver

Left seat for me on the next go around!

Congrats. Also, I should clarify, I don't feel bad for those HVA pilots. You take 45K there are probably going to be strings attached. It's their blood money for those pilots.

02-21-2018 | 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Otterbox

Isn’t Envoys flow based on total pilots like Piedmont and not eligible CAs like PSA? If so, FOs don’t have to upgrade to flow so the ration of CA:FO has no effect on the timeline.

PSA is no longer based on anything. Just ten a month. Period.

02-21-2018 | 02:26 PM

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E175 Driver

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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy

PSA is no longer based on anything. Just ten a month. Period.

10 for now. They are in negotiations to increase their flow. Ya'll know how they like to vote in exchange for anything!

02-21-2018 | 03:09 PM

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MD-11Loader

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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy

PSA is no longer based on anything. Just ten a month. Period.

Rumor has it they are negotiating an industry leading concessionary contract for increased flow, and our 175 fleet.

03-04-2018 | 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 1704LIFE

This will get your blood boiling in sure,

I read on the AA forum a while ago that a guy retiring from the military got called for his interview, he did his 20 years.

During the interview he was very candid and let them know he hasn’t flown in over 12 years, working a desk position. They interview committee said don’t worry, it’s a non-issue.

He got the welcome aboard call a few days later.

You're showing your age/inexperience/naivete tiger. Don't hate the player, hate the game. I'll bet in addition to the fact that he hadn't flown in 8 years, he had a pretty impressive management, budgeting, etc stuff on his resume.

However could they hire him?!

03-06-2018 | 11:50 AM

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Would somebody mind posting the date of hire for the latest flow? I was hired in 2011 but furloughed in 12 and didn't return. Just curious about it....