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Old 02-16-2018, 12:59 PM   #1  
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Hey a friend of friend said they were told during the interview that Envoy is placing a freeze on hiring and told to reapply in 30 days. Anyone hear anything on this?
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Hey a friend of friend said they were told during the interview that Envoy is placing a freeze on hiring and told to reapply in 30 days. Anyone hear anything on this?
Makes sense. They're capping all new hire classes for the foreseeable future. Pipeline is probably full at the moment. At least on the new hire/FO side.
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Makes sense. They're capping all new hire classes for the foreseeable future. Pipeline is probably full at the moment. At least on the new hire/FO side.
So what would all of this mean for someone with a class date in the next three months? How long to get off reserve? How long to get back to DFW?
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So what would all of this mean for someone with a class date in the next three months? How long to get off reserve? How long to get back to DFW?
Yes. No. Yes.
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Pardon my ignorance, but what sense does a hiring freeze make?

sure, perhaps if they are fat on FOs a hiring freeze for FOs... but a hiring freeze all around?

smells of fish
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Pardon my ignorance, but what sense does a hiring freeze make?

sure, perhaps if they are fat on FOs a hiring freeze for FOs... but a hiring freeze all around?

smells of fish
Compass had a year long hiring freeze that just ended. They are now feeling the painful effects from it with how short on FOs they are. It was also painful for the guys hired just prior to the freeze.
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I could see a 4 month or 6 month hiring freeze on FOs while doing everything in your power to soak up HVAs perhaps.

i dunno. seems strange.
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I could see a 4 month or 6 month hiring freeze on FOs while doing everything in your power to soak up HVAs perhaps.

i dunno. seems strange.
Its simple math given the email R.W. sent out showing the proposed expansion of lines if the rumors above of hiring freeze are true.

They need more captains in order to staff the expansion of lines.

Theyve pretty much tapped out the forced upgrades in-house, there will only be a slow trickle of FOs hitting upgrade requirements. Just guessing here, but its pribably not high enough rate to meet the rate of proposed expansion shown in R.Ws email late last year.

Most likely if there is in fact a hiring freeze (as per the rumors above), theyll only be picking up the cadets and RTP guys until they can even out the Captain side of the house.

I wonder how long until the HVA candidate pool dries up? My guess is they banked on a lot more people jumping at the $45k signing bonus than have actually shown interest or come on board. I personally know of 5 guys that interviewed and went to EDV instead (2 of which were referrals), makes financial sense for them given the hourly rates.

Also dont forget the 25 or so CAs per month flowing off the top.
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is it an expansion with more lines out of an existing base or is it a new base they are shooting for?

i'm a gnats a$$ from deciding that im out as an HVA altogether, it doesnt make sense to sit junior for my entire time at envoy when i could go in as an FO at another regional and be a captain in a year and have nobody upgrading over my head.
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is it an expansion with more lines out of an existing base or is it a new base they are shooting for?

i'm a gnats a$$ from deciding that im out as an HVA altogether, it doesnt make sense to sit junior for my entire time at envoy when i could go in as an FO at another regional and be a captain in a year and have nobody upgrading over my head.
Be careful with that. The problem with not enough CAs is no longer unique to Envoy. Skywest apparently is beginning to feel it as well. Im sure others are going to follow pretty soon.
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