“Seek First to Understand, Then to Be Understood.”

Stephen Covey- 7 habits of Highly Effective People.


Great book and reading for personal development & character building. Many on here NEED to read that!

 

My comments weren't meant to be a complaint about the addition of A12. That of course is an improvement even as standby. I just wanted to point out that if we're still just doing A12 via HIGO like I was told to do when I did Home Based TDY, then it's not really positive space. Someone earlier in the thread pointed out there can be another way to book it where you can see which flights you can book positive space through the Travel Planner but that was not presented as an option to me back then. Hopefully it will be in the future.

 

I brought up booking A12s through the travel planner vs. HIGOA earlier in the thread. I heard back from the travel team, and they said they had not received guidance yet on how we are to book the travel, but said we could email them or the Envoy travel desk if we do not 'initially' get the required permissions to book A12s through NRTP.

Finding E-Space (confirmed space) should not be too difficult, especially more than 14 days out, but there will be some flights that it is never available, and you will have to be a revenue standby should we elect to take that flight. E-Space (A12s) works pretty well, but even as a manager at HDQ, it was still required that we travel for business as A12s.

The way I would proceed, is once the guidance is finalized on when we can start booking A12s for commuting...I would email the travel desk insensately to find out which flight have E-Space available, to the point of annoyance, such they give us that functionality. The way I see it, if we can book via HIGOA, there is no reason why they should not give us the same functionality in the NRTP.

 

Not sure if it was answered before but do you still get retention bonus AND captain pay once you get the award? Or do they take the bonus away? If that's the case then they're taking your bonus money and giving it to you in a different way.

 

Trust me it's worth it.

The bonus is valued 27-50 dollars per day. Once you upgrade gets awarded then your pay increases and you get higher quality lines plus OT.

 

It has been explained that April captain awards are not eligible for the captain pay, but what happens after the next vacancy award? I assume that many of us will not have had our FedRide yet, thus we will still be getting FO pay, despite other pilots (even potentially in our upgrade class) getting CA pay. This seems like a significant oversight in the language of the LOAs.

 

Book in DECS, remember dept. date, flight nr. Import into travel planner, get PNR and remember to check in, put in AA app and pick seat.

 

April awards are getting withholding pay based on the way you bid for the April award. If you preference bid for CA you most likely will be getting withholding pay (CA rates backpay upon completion of IOE) from from around early April. If you proferred to displace then it would be from some time later than that in order or seniority.

Unfortunately there will always be some winners and losers with LOA’s.

 

Where did this guidance come from?

 

What’s your point? There are people at other companies doing the exact same job and getting treated much better. The only butthurt is coming from you. The industry has changed and Envoy needs to keep up. If you were in the same position has a new hire FO today, you’d feel the same. Sounds like youre jealous