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06-27-2021, 01:15 PM
#1482
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,471
Originally Posted by pitchattitude
Yep. Crisis mismanagement at it worst.
They totally screwed up the airline staffing last July with those downgrades, and the effects will ripple over a few years.
And we told them this exact thing will happen. They didn't care.
06-27-2021, 04:13 PM
#1483
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Originally Posted by dera
They also displaced most instructors, all but 1 went to the 175. And now they cant do enough long term training with the instructors they have left, and they cant train more instructors because they are so short on line captains.
They totally screwed up the airline staffing last July with those downgrades, and the effects will ripple over a few years.
And we told them this exact thing will happen. They didn't care.
They totally screwed up the airline staffing last July with those downgrades, and the effects will ripple over a few years.
And we told them this exact thing will happen. They didn't care.
06-27-2021, 04:52 PM
#1485
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Position: Resigned
Posts: 1,547
Originally Posted by acestro
Is Envoy currently hiring? Anyone one know their hiring plans for the near future?
We'll probably hire next month and announce additional furloughs in September. This place is being run into the ground by management at .96 mach.
06-27-2021, 05:59 PM
#1486
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Joined APC: Apr 2020
Position: AOG
Posts: 741
Originally Posted by acestro
Is Envoy currently hiring? Anyone one know their hiring plans for the near future?
06-27-2021, 07:53 PM
#1487
New Hire
Joined APC: Jun 2021
Position: First Officer
Posts: 1
Originally Posted by acestro
Is Envoy currently hiring? Anyone one know their hiring plans for the near future?
06-27-2021, 08:28 PM
#1488
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Position: Feeder of Amber
Posts: 229
It is worth noting that these catastrophic staffing decisions are not unique to Envoy. I have friends at SkyWest and Republic that say the exact same things about “we begged them not to furlough our training department” and are now scrambling to cover flying.
Yes the Voy is gonna be a dumpster fire for staffing for the foreseeable future. But so will EVERYWHERE else.
Yes the Voy is gonna be a dumpster fire for staffing for the foreseeable future. But so will EVERYWHERE else.
06-27-2021, 08:58 PM
#1489
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,471
Originally Posted by pitchattitude
But they saved money not paying people. Oh wait, the government paid them anyway. Well, they got some people to leave that they don’t have to pay anymore.
06-27-2021, 09:10 PM
#1490
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Originally Posted by dera
The furloughs ended up costing them close to 6 times more than what they saved.
They have been playing this game of multiple back and forth training cycles that take productive pilots off the line since the forced upgrades began. I know of at least one pilot who started in the 175 with a bit of prior 121 time in his distant past. He was promptly forced to upgrade on the CRJ, and then over to the 145 before he was finally able to bid back to the 175. Four long term events in about 16 months I believe it was.
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