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06-27-2021 | 01:15 PM
#1482
In a land of unicorns
Joined: Apr 2014
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From: Whale FO
They also displaced most instructors, all but 1 went to the 175. And now they cant do enough long term training with the instructors they have left, and they cant train more instructors because they are so short on line captains.
They totally screwed up the airline staffing last July with those downgrades, and the effects will ripple over a few years.
And we told them this exact thing will happen. They didn't care.
They totally screwed up the airline staffing last July with those downgrades, and the effects will ripple over a few years.
And we told them this exact thing will happen. They didn't care.
06-27-2021 | 04:13 PM
#1483
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
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They also displaced most instructors, all but 1 went to the 175. And now they cant do enough long term training with the instructors they have left, and they cant train more instructors because they are so short on line captains.
They totally screwed up the airline staffing last July with those downgrades, and the effects will ripple over a few years.
And we told them this exact thing will happen. They didn't care.
They totally screwed up the airline staffing last July with those downgrades, and the effects will ripple over a few years.
And we told them this exact thing will happen. They didn't care.
06-27-2021 | 04:52 PM
#1485
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,547
Likes: 0
From: Resigned
We'll probably hire next month and announce additional furloughs in September. This place is being run into the ground by management at .96 mach.
06-27-2021 | 05:59 PM
#1486
Line Holder
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 1,134
Likes: 81
From: AOG
Do yourself a favor and go to an airline that has things like min day credit, trip rigs, duty rigs, etc. Envoy is run by a management team that doesn't have a clue as to how to run a modern airline. Envoy hired one cadet in the last class. Do yourself a favor, apply to Endeavor before you consider this place.
06-27-2021 | 07:53 PM
#1487
New Hire
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1
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From: First Officer
06-27-2021 | 08:28 PM
#1488
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 229
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From: Feeder of Amber
It is worth noting that these catastrophic staffing decisions are not unique to Envoy. I have friends at SkyWest and Republic that say the exact same things about “we begged them not to furlough our training department” and are now scrambling to cover flying.
Yes the Voy is gonna be a dumpster fire for staffing for the foreseeable future. But so will EVERYWHERE else.
Yes the Voy is gonna be a dumpster fire for staffing for the foreseeable future. But so will EVERYWHERE else.
06-27-2021 | 08:58 PM
#1489
In a land of unicorns
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 7,072
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From: Whale FO
06-27-2021 | 09:10 PM
#1490
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2017
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They have been playing this game of multiple back and forth training cycles that take productive pilots off the line since the forced upgrades began. I know of at least one pilot who started in the 175 with a bit of prior 121 time in his distant past. He was promptly forced to upgrade on the CRJ, and then over to the 145 before he was finally able to bid back to the 175. Four long term events in about 16 months I believe it was.
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