That would make us a staffing company completely owned by a major. That’s better than NOT being dependent on contracts if your not Skywest or Republic


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So....LAX?

 

Check back on Weds .

 

Should we be excited?

 

Why do so many people want LAX so bad? Almost everyone (who will flow) and was hired when LAX was a base at Envoy has left. The major problem we have as pilots at this airline is our sh*t quality of life. And what does the company say every time we ask for improvements? “No because classes are full.” LAX would just add a gigantic pool of new applicants for recruiting to pick from. Rumor is PSA is coming to DFW which could seriously hurt recruiting at Envoy as we will no longer be the best option in DFW with flow. Now you are wanting a new base? Why? We have a slim chance to actually get back some of the leverage we have squandered away as of recent. And if you came here just because you heard the rumor that LAX was coming back, then I have no sympathy. Who else does that leave? You guys just want overnights on the west coast? Please enlighten me on why the LAX base is your white buffalo.

 

Some of us do actually live on the west coast...not really a hard concept to grasp. I understand your point about why you don’t want it to open but the reason people would want it is pretty obvious

 

I’m not saying there are people who don’t live there, but maybe a few too many folks who lived two time zones away from the nearest domicile, came to work for a company with no evidence to believe that would ever change. Like I said, I feel sorry for those who started working here and who lived on the west coast only to have LAX close on them as I know a couple of them personally

 

I agree if someone came to Envoy because they believed LAX was inevitable, they made a mistake. I made the choice to come to Envoy knowing my commute would suck but LAX opening would be great for me personally. Not necessarily the best thing for the pilot group.

 

I agree, and have said for some time, that if Envoy gets LAX it will be a huge recruiting boost. Part of the reason that a lot of people want LAX is the obvious, but not just west coast, but Rockies and west. And everyone thinks it will come with more 175s. And the reality is that all the people who flock to LAX will increase relative seniority in DFW and ORD for everyone who stays there.

The other thing is for people who are preaching flow, after the 10-11 crowd, flow is tied to number of people on the seniority list. It’s a Ponzi scheme. Get people in underneath you so you can get pushed out.

 

I was LAX based for Eagle. I can see why people want it back. It was one of the starting points. Best time of my life LAX Saab flying...