Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy (Post 2796199)

Don't forget that there's basically nobody left at PSA who could have voted back in 2013... The pilot group is entirely new.

Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2796169)

Paraphrasing from a reliable source;

- Signing bonus is for new hires replacing the current NH bonus. It doesn’t apply to current pilots agreeing to the LOA.

- LOA allows PSA to deliberately over-schedule the training center in case of washouts/unseats.

This shook out like so;

PSA MEC was approached by their management a short time ago and were forced to sign NDA’s before being shown the proposed agreement. Their MEC met a week later and were also forced to sign NDA’s. It appears that ALPA National was not informed of the developments until it went public.

Here’s the most important part;

It’s no accident that AAG dropped this on PSA first. Trying this with all 3 WO’s at once would have encouraged pattern bargaining. They wanted to set the bar low to prevent anyone from negotiating add-ons based on PSA’s history.

Originally Posted by moon (Post 2796264)

I hope the PSAers still realize there's a long way to go to get credibility back in mine and many many envoy pilots eyes.

Originally Posted by Throwitaway (Post 2796273)

Thought about, still couldn't care less about my credibility in your eyes... I'm not impressed by your vitriol nor do I seek your validation. Go start a thread slamming your coworker and resident youtuber. Stay classy Envoy.

Originally Posted by Throwitaway (Post 2796273)

Thought about, still couldn't care less about my credibility in your eyes... I'm not impressed by your vitriol nor do I seek your validation. Go start a thread slamming your coworker and resident youtuber. Stay classy Envoy.

Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2796278)

Not sure how long you have been at PSA so in all fairness you could be innocent to the whole issue, however those that chose the concessions back in the day literally detailed the industry and set it back. In addition it directly ****ed Envoy pilots as they just rejected the same deal. While I wasn’t around for it to directly affect me, I think it is short sided to just expect everyone to forget it and move on.

Wounds take time to heal and trust, once lost takes even longer to earn back. I am happy for the people at PSA and happy another group of pilots received the compensation they deserve. Well done.

Here’s hoping the rest of us see it.

Originally Posted by Throwitaway (Post 2796273)

Thought about, still couldn't care less about my credibility in your eyes... I'm not impressed by your vitriol nor do I seek your validation. Go start a thread slamming your coworker and resident youtuber. Stay classy Envoy.

Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2796335)

I love that you guys just essentially sold SAP out.

Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2796335)

I love that you guys just essentially sold SAP out.

Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2796335)

I love that you guys just essentially sold SAP out.