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06-23-2019 | 08:17 PM

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havick206

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Originally Posted by pitchattitude

Let’s face it, 121 isn’t for everyone and Envoy in particular can put a pretty bad taste in your mouth.

There are a lot of reasons for the high attrition rate the first year.

They’re not 1st year though. They’re the group that we’re stuck on reserve 12 months, then did another 12+ months and have upgraded or upgrading now. Not getting a pay deal done pushed a lot over the fence.

06-23-2019 | 08:31 PM

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If that’s the case, nothing or minimal to pay back.

If there is an increase in senior FO/ junior CA, then maybe the company will finally start REacting, since that seems to be the only way anything happens.

Hopefully it is Captains that have gone through two upgrades and wasted more of the company’s money and training slots.

06-26-2019 | 07:25 AM

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Bump
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06-26-2019 | 07:30 AM

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Envoy: The LOWEST paid Wholly Owned.

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Bump

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Another week will go by with nothing happening over the weekend. Rinse and repeat for the foreseeable future unfortunately.

06-26-2019 | 12:03 PM

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Just a reminder it's been 20 days since the Piedmont pay raise. 42 with back pay included. 80/86 for PSA.

06-26-2019 | 12:12 PM

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Just a reminder it's been 20 days since the Piedmont pay raise. 42 with back pay included. 80/86 for PSA.

And not a word from the union or company

06-26-2019 | 12:17 PM

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Just a reminder it's been 20 days since the Piedmont pay raise. 42 with back pay included. 80/86 for PSA.

Company doesn’t care so long as they get enough critical coverage picked up and bodies keep showing up for class.

06-26-2019 | 03:59 PM

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dera

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And not a word from the union or company

Not a word? Apart from every rep being under one roof yesterday answering questions?

06-26-2019 | 05:29 PM

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Not a word? Apart from every rep being under one roof yesterday answering questions?

So, for all of us who live out of town, or were working....we want to know. It's not that complicated.

06-26-2019 | 05:40 PM

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I wonder if Swane Martin will make a video about how Envoy and AA management don't think his pilot group at Envoy are worth as much as his fellow wholly owned American Eagle pilots.
I hope you new hires realize how much you're valued. Have some self worth and fight for what's right. Single engine taxies and waiting to turn the APU shouldn't be a thing over at Envoy. Picking up OT like Swane Martin made a video about on youtube should not be happening. Doing favors for Envoy needs to stop.
Management takes advantage of the fact that we as pilots truly love aviation. This doesn't mean we should sit back and take it. Eagle pilots make American Airlines great. It's not the other way around just to be clear.