smtx123

I think our lines are supposed to up quite a bit as we get into the later part of the year as well.

CrowneVic

All the vacancies show a training entry date of NLT December 2020.

Realistically, how long can one typically expect to have to wait for a training date for a preference upgrade award, or a displacement (forced) upgrade?

Cyio

Thats really a moving target to be honest. A preference will certainly go first with displacements going last, based on seniority. I have heard of preferences going in as quick as a month with displacements taking almost six to go.

Fleet, quantity and seniority all play in to that.

skyemiles2

Thanks, all, for the info re: the LOA. Much appreciated.

402FreightDog

Can someone explain how the displacement of all the CRJ pilots is going to affect how the bids are run this time around?

I’m sure the union will put something out, but probably only a day or two before the bids close. It would be nice to know the process so one can strategize their bids, both as a CRJ CA and FO, and an upgrading FO.

BigZ

All the CRJ pilots go to fill MIA or LAX (their preference) 175 spots, get unlimited starbucks gift cards and a rainbow pony.

In other words, not entirely sure what you are asking.
At the end of this bid each CRJ pilot will have a next status on their 21/123456, class dates TBD.
The FOs are fairly senior (80% have been on property for a year and a half or more), so expect them to get whichever FO seat they want, possibly displacing junior pilots from places like MIA to other bases and possibly taking up all the OFL spots for the next month or two.
The CA side is fairly junior (60+% on property for a year or less).

Have your 3Ds filled out. Reference the contract for paid moving expenses if changing the base and moving.

402FreightDog

I guess the big question is the sequence of filling the bid and whether someone both as a CRJ Captain or FO upgrading will make a difference whether they preference or displacement bid in what they end up with.

BigZ

I'd say you know for a fact that you are getting displaced, no if's about it - don't bother with the 3P, don't get a seat lock (get a voluntary CA equipment lock after the award if you're happy with what you got for extra $$)
Preference/proffer/straight displacement won't change what you hold - you hold whatever your seniority can hold.
Order of going to class - in April some upgrading FOs preferenced upgrade to go to class sooner... just to get withheld through August together with the displaced - keep that in mind.
Also in April some DECs had 175 in their 3P, got it on the preference run, just to be displaced out of it by more senior pilots on the proffer to displace run. With the 3Ds blank their next status says 145 LGA, so keep that in mind too. You will hold whatever your seniority can hold, regardless of whether you 3P/3D/PDIS.

Tomhawker

How much more junior is OCL than DCL? I’m looking at upgrade and need to see how much longer holding a line will take if I bid DFW. Like an earlier poster, I can’t get 3U to work.

uavking

Surprised no one is commenting on the latest gift from the company (via union commo): a unilateral 12 month flow freeze for upgrades, regardless of whether you volunteer or are displaced...