The problem is people calling the union telling them to take the money then turning around and complaining because they didn't understand how our pay works. Good luck getting those rsv improvements now

 

It is sad how many folks didn’t understand our pay system, but when the union is sworn to secrecy about any negotiations and goes zero-dark-thirty about any details, and passes a deal by union vote without any input from the pilot group based on any hard details, kind of hard to put the blame on those who were in the dark.

 

I wasn’t saying you can’t complain but you won’t find any sympathy from someone who went through worse and would gladly be in your shoes.

If you thought you were getting pay raises and bonuses then the only reason you are feeling let down is because of your over active imagination.

 

Pay should be split based on aircraft. Just like mainline.

The 175 should be senior, not ALL-ATPs CFI central.

 

The 175 should be at AA and not an option for any of us.

 

Disagree, at least at the regional level. Current system allows some flexibility that is additive to QOL. If you’re senior and want to live in Miami for example, you don’t have to commute just for better pay.

I do agree the 175 should be at mainline, as ALL flying should. Regionals shouldn’t exist.

Paybanding is what is BS. Also, we should just get paid based on the seat we can hold, perhaps volunteer for a seat lock to do that. That is a win-win for both the pilot group and the company.

On another note, I am highly disappointed with the union and their acceptance of this offer without putting it to a vote. You all should contact your reps and let them know you expect them to do just that.

If they don’t, I’m sure their decision can be legally challenged by the membership. Just like Envoy management didn’t have authorization from AA on the AIP, it sounds as if the union doesn’t have our authorization on this, which more than meets the threshold of “substantial changes” to the Agreement.

This is a total surrender and a benefit to the few, to the detriment of the many, yet again. Shameful, just shameful, and embarrassing.

“Company agrees to discuss reserve rules”. Utterly and completely shameful.

Good luck with that.

 

FOs are all paid the same and are seat locked to their aircraft. Not sure of the point you're trying to make here.

 

Me either. Pay banding is way better than having to chase around airplanes to make your money. Blended rates would be better but, this is better than aircraft rates

 

You know we have CAs too, right?

 

Prepare to be disappointed.