For those who like to nitpick (.01)....
07-26-2019 | 11:32 AM
#42
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Nah, we're not that bad compared to them. We have better commuter hotels, our OT is better. It's not rainbows and unicorns there either.
Right now, PSA has the best deal, we are a bit behind, and PDT is still at the bottom by a considerable margin.
Next few months will show how this will change at ENY, I think OT starts going senior again and that hoses the 1-2 year FOs.
Right now, PSA has the best deal, we are a bit behind, and PDT is still at the bottom by a considerable margin.
Next few months will show how this will change at ENY, I think OT starts going senior again and that hoses the 1-2 year FOs.
This whole thing is about what I expected. A bit of a pay raise, but not much. It’s all smoke and mirrors and just shuffling around the same money. FOs didn’t get much. Captains didn’t really get much more.
07-26-2019 | 11:48 AM
#43
In a land of unicorns
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From: Whale FO
OT going senior? How many FOs are there that are over two years? They won’t stay FOs if they are picking up OT. As it is I think most people that are displaced to captain are picking up everything they can at captain pay while they are in a position to do so as a “senior” FO. I guess that is OT going senior but this pay raise won’t change that unless the LOA paying captain pay upon award snuck out with this deal as well.
This whole thing is about what I expected. A bit of a pay raise, but not much. It’s all smoke and mirrors and just shuffling around the same money. FOs didn’t get much. Captains didn’t really get much more.
This whole thing is about what I expected. A bit of a pay raise, but not much. It’s all smoke and mirrors and just shuffling around the same money. FOs didn’t get much. Captains didn’t really get much more.
Keeps block time lower but pay about the same for them.
After this, I think even the 2-3 hour trips start to go more senior.
The biggest "winners" are the pilots who start in class this Monday. Immediate 50.21/hr, and the old signup bonus check. The B band Captains deserved more, but many of them are so close to flowing they won't leave.
07-26-2019 | 12:50 PM
#45
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Hopefully prospective new hires will see this for what it is. The company can advertise a higher hourly rate, but by reducing the extra $5K signing bonus that went to 145s, and just the general shuffling of dollars I think the total first two years of pay actually went down.
The company is still going to continue to falsely advertise “industry leading pay” and bogus flow times.
Certainly not going to do anything to help retain anyone.
Doesn’t change my efforts to get out.
The company is still going to continue to falsely advertise “industry leading pay” and bogus flow times.
Certainly not going to do anything to help retain anyone.
Doesn’t change my efforts to get out.
07-26-2019 | 01:07 PM
#47
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Hopefully prospective new hires will see this for what it is. The company can advertise a higher hourly rate, but by reducing the extra $5K signing bonus that went to 145s, and just the general shuffling of dollars I think the total first two years of pay actually went down.
The company is still going to continue to falsely advertise “industry leading pay” and bogus flow times.
Certainly not going to do anything to help retain anyone.
Doesn’t change my efforts to get out.
The company is still going to continue to falsely advertise “industry leading pay” and bogus flow times.
Certainly not going to do anything to help retain anyone.
Doesn’t change my efforts to get out.
07-26-2019 | 01:13 PM
#48
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07-26-2019 | 01:36 PM
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The INITIAL withholding rate is higher. At the end of the year when you file, it doesn’t make a difference. You pay/get refunded on the total amount versus what you paid.
07-26-2019 | 01:37 PM
#50
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I think some of us have a gross missunderstaning of how tax witholdings, tax rates, and tax refunds work.
