Cyio

Its fine, every single one of his "trust me" statements has absolutely backfired. Even the most ignorant, head in the sand reader can understand that the best course of action will to do the exact opposite of anything TheKooj says.

GroundPointNine

Agreed. The aviation industry troll of the year award goes to TheKooj! Congratulations lol.

TexAg11

I’ve spent a little time thinking about this flow going away in bankruptcy stuff, and I just don’t know why it would. Getting rid of flow doesn’t provide any cost savings. If it’s gone, then AAG only helps the Spirits and Frontiers as all their WO regional pilots have a mass exodus. I’m pretty sure everyone at a WO walks that stay or spirit tightrope as some point. Or if not one of those carriers then just the highest paying regional. The WOs basically don’t need a recruiting department because of it. And my understanding is that the training over at AA is mostly seamless for the flows, while street hires and military tend to be the ones needing extra, so the training dept tends to like it. (Not that a flow is a better pilot, just the FOM and procedures and familiarity etc)

Not glorifying flow or saying that it’s not gonna be a decade...just speaking to the “flows gone in bankruptcy” point.

Wouldn’t mind hearing some other perspectives.

Cyio

I don’t think anyone is saying it’s gone, but rather of zero usefulness as of now. Effectively it might as well be gone. In terms of it going away in the future, AA could use it to get concessions with the threat of removing it.

You are correct, however it has huge negotiating power, at least it did.

highfarfast

What would it matter if nobody is flowing? Spirit, Southwest, Jetblue et al will all be hiring long before AA hires another pilot. Is there really going to be anyone saying, “gee, I’ve got this Spirit offer but I think I’d rather wait around until flow starts again”?

Freighthotdog

I will never understand why people bash other pilots for wanting to go to a regional for a flow. Some want very good QOL, some want a shiny new jet, some want the best pay rates, and some want career progression. Too say “hOw iS tHaT fLoW” is quite foolish.

dk104444

If it wasn't for the flow I wouldn't be at my seniority today. What other regionals let you move up the list every month like clock work?

terks43

Outside of Expressjet, all of them?

Meep

If you had the stats to get on at NK you should have gone, stayed a year or two and then gone to AA. Although, all that was pre COVID so it doesn’t really matter at this point. I’m happy at NK and even if I get furloughed, at least my name is on the list.

buddies8

not now and not for at least 4 years.