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First tell aag cancel all non w/o contracts ie. Skw, rah and mesa. Do that first, make a public statement to ybye media and file it withc.dtbye sec first, then and only then will we come to the table with no nda signed.
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Originally Posted by Tyrion
(Post 3099721)
A bigger problem might not be that flow might be gone in bankruptcy, but that Envoy might be gone in bankruptcy along with one or both of the other WOs. If flying demand remains low that AAG has to reduce its regional footprint, they still have to honor their contracts with Skywest, Republic, and Mesa. They also have to honor scope with APA. One of the easiest ways to accomplish that would be to shut the doors on a WO or two or three.
So scope is limited - both as to total flight hours and to total number of regional aircraft (limited to a percentage of mainline narrow bodies). The early retirement of the E-190s and the older 737s, coupled with deferrals of the Future 321XLR orders combined with the decreased overall flying is going to mean that something has to give and decreasing assets they control will actually be cheaper than paying a premium to cancel contracts. So yeah, lose a few more aircraft in bankruptcy and push could really come to shove... |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 3099679)
Less cancellations than expected actually.
But this is just rd 1. Rd 2 soon to follow. when does round one start and when does round two begin? Or is it a continuous thing throughout the month based on real time loads? Just curious about this process. |
Originally Posted by CaseTractor
(Post 3099869)
Tiers of cancellation?
when does round one start and when does round two begin? Or is it a continuous thing throughout the month based on real time loads? Just curious about this process. If there is indeed a round two, which I cant see why there wouldn't be as dera has shown to be correct in most of their statements, it would be even worse than what we see now. This is going to get really bad as Excargodog mentions if scope issues start coming into play and a reduction in lines, I cant see a way out of greater furloughs. |
Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 3099878)
I too was unaware that AA had tiered cancelation packages, but I can assure you that if they do, round 1 already happened yesterday morning. It would seem that many peoples schedules have seen reduced flying, upwards of 50% by some accounts.
If there is indeed a round two, which I cant see why there wouldn't be as dera has shown to be correct in most of their statements, it would be even worse than what we see now. This is going to get really bad as Excargodog mentions if scope issues start coming into play and a reduction in lines, I cant see a way out of greater furloughs. |
Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 3099878)
I too was unaware that AA had tiered cancelation packages, but I can assure you that if they do, round 1 already happened yesterday morning. It would seem that many peoples schedules have seen reduced flying, upwards of 50% by some accounts.
If there is indeed a round two, which I cant see why there wouldn't be as dera has shown to be correct in most of their statements, it would be even worse than what we see now. This is going to get really bad as Excargodog mentions if scope issues start coming into play and a reduction in lines, I cant see a way out of greater furloughs. |
Originally Posted by SomePilotDude
(Post 3099890)
Additional schedule changes just went through this morning. Looks like they cleaned up the discontinuities from yesterday and cancelled a few more.
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
(Post 3099926)
My discontinuities were all fixed by yesterday afternoon. I had about 30% cut from my August schedule plus some the end this month. I think I got one fixed by adding back in a flight and one that has a deadhead now, Plus some 48ish hour lost days. Nothing else this morning. I still have some Mexico overnights. Anyone have those go away?
10 legs lost in AUG |
9.28 years
Wow thats long! If the flow dissolves in bankruptcy wouldn’t it be better to have a guaranteed interview. This way AA hires the most qualified, competitive, and worthwhile. Some iffy people have flowed that an interview would have had possibly filtered. Whats endeavors pass rate now? Probably accurate.
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