Outside of Expressjet, all of them?

If you had the stats to get on at NK you should have gone, stayed a year or two and then gone to AA. Although, all that was pre COVID so it doesn’t really matter at this point. I’m happy at NK and even if I get furloughed, at least my name is on the list.

not now and not for at least 4 years.

uh, we just had a guy in this thread say he thought an 8 year flow was better than going to spirit or frontier at the time.

Uhhh, and rightly so. Do you think AA has any chance of ever failing? How about Spirit or Frontier? The answer is, AA is too big to fail. Frontier and Spirit may not make it out of this at all.

Times are tough at the moment but it isn't going to last. When the vaccine hits late this year and starts making its way out into the population, the sentiment is going to change virtually overnight. Do you seriously want to be playing golf with some guys and when they ask what you do, having to cough, and look away while saying you work for Spirit? Or be at a bar and talking it up with a potential date and having to tell them you work for Frontier? No, the answer is you want the prestige of working for American Airlines and you can say that loud and proud when asked.

The flow is a beautiful thing and AAG recognized that early on and thus the reason they made it a cornerstone of the company. There is no substitute for walking on to AA property directly from a pipeline academy.

Yeah, that's crazy enough. But now we're likely looking at seeing hiring start elsewhere while we are not flowing.

Uh, I’d venture to say AA is NOT too big to fail completely. It is certainly failing miserably right now.

I’d rather tell someone I work at Frontier or Spirt than Envoy, or have been furloughed by AA.

Business and international pax are NOT coming back. AAG is going to start canceling August flights here shortly because the bookings are back down. Frontier and Spirit numbers don’t seem to be as affected because they don’t rely on business and international pax like the big three.

Now, go back to what ever rock you have your KoolAid still under.

Check your schedule, it has already begun and to a degree greater than I thought it would.

The current WARN letters are only the start of this. A cancellation package was dropped this morning and I would assume that the staffing plan was based on passengers returning. If the September block hours and beyond are dropped, then the initial 210 that were expected to be furloughed might end up being a lot more.