Yes, it expired Feb 2019, and applied to those with more than 800 hours qualifying towards captain.

So would you even recommend someone start training now to be a pilot seeing as how they will possibly be stuck at a regional for years or forever. Is it possible to make over 100k a year as a regional captain? Personally I’d love to join Envoy flow or not one day just because they are based in my backyard with me living in SPS. My current job pays around 80k a year, but I’d hate to leave a sure thing for all the negativity I hear on here. Even though my job sucks working on aircraft, I’d much rather be flying them one day and since I’m over the age limit for the Guard at 37 and other circumstances that knock me out for that position I’d love to be an airline pilot since planes are in my blood.

If you love the idea of flying for a living then by all means do it, assuming you are already rated, meaning you have the ratings just need the hours.

You could still end up at a major or ulcc if that is what you want. If you come into the industry now and join Envoy, just know that the numbers Envoy is selling are not going to happen, at least not at the rates we are currently/expected to be flowing at. You can however come here and get your time, still trying to get hired outside of the flow and just have it as a backup.

Sound advice, if you have the bug to fly, you're not gonna be able to shake it, you should chase it. Sure Envoy isn't all rainbows and cupcakes but I've honestly had a great time so far. Pilots complain by nature, we're always going to want better pay, better flow, more days off, yadda yadda, but if you live in SPS and you want to fly, Envoy is a great place to do it.

Don’t have any hours or ratings. Honestly me and my wife are thinking 3 years out before I start training. Gives us plenty of time to pay stuff off. And yes I hear seniority is everything, but that’s my timeframe as when to start training at 40 possibly 39. Giving me 25 or 26 years to train, build 1500 and give me hopefully 20 years to fly. I’ve always heard pick a regional you’d be happy to be at if you never make a Major. Being at SPS and seeing as how I think it will always be associated with AA with the AF base here and all the transporting of students that go here to DFW I think I’d be safe at ENVOY forever minus a lay-off. I’m just wondering how long it would take as a captain to make say 85k about what I do now with Envoy. Thanks again guys for all the responses who’s not even with y’all yet.

Assuming it will take you 2 years to get 1000h 121 to upgrade then you are looking at :
Year 3 CA pay 80$/h.
75 hours guarantee a month x 80$/h x 12 adds up to 72k/ yr. Add some perdiem and OT and you can easily make 80-90k as a CA on 3rd yr pay scale.

Thanks for this. But who’s to say in 3-5 years that the regionals will still even be hurting and that I can even land a job. But that’s guys for the information, y’all are great and thanks for all the guys flying the SPS to DFW flight and back keeping my safe.

You are crystal balling now and none of us have that answer. It depends on many things outside our direct control. The “odds” are pilot demand should continue but we can’t tell you to change your career, invest large sums of money and change your lifestyle solely on what may happen in five years.

Best of luck to you though. Another option if you really want to fly would be the corporate world. You could most likely get on quicker and make more right out of the gate. Just an option to consider.

With the last of the protected pilots out the door, flow is about to be more like an ebb or trickle.

What is the flow going to drop to now? Isn't it some weird formula taking into account the amount of pilots on property?