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CaseTractor 10-05-2019 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by dragongoliath (Post 2898961)
Even if we have 3000 pilots, the agreement is the lesser of 25% of AA slots or the formula based on how many pilots at envoy. So if AA hire 1000 pilots in a year we would flow 20/month even with 3000 or 4000 pilots on property.

Yup... that’s the kicker; the LESSER of the two. Even 20 a month is extremely optimistic.

Cyio 10-06-2019 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by CaseTractor (Post 2898976)
Yup... that’s the kicker; the LESSER of the two. Even 20 a month is extremely optimistic.

Our union president and negotiating team showing their talent once again. They sold out the majority of the pilot group for a select few, just as Sam P did right before he left. At least he had the nuts to admit as much in his email.

buddies8 10-06-2019 09:14 AM

Sam had given the store away long ago. Everything he did was an Lou not an loa. Lou company with 30 ton90 day notice to cancel. Loa is permanent. Sam is enjoying aa being in Boston sitting reserve and as before doing nothing.

FAIPMAFIA 10-07-2019 05:50 AM

Requirements to flow?
 
What requirements are in place in order for someone to flow? Eg: captain for How many years?

havick206 10-07-2019 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by FAIPMAFIA (Post 2899581)
What requirements are in place in order for someone to flow? Eg: captain for How many years?

CA for one year. No step letters on file. That’s it.

FAIPMAFIA 10-07-2019 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2899592)
CA for one year. No step letters on file. That’s it.

If someone has been with the company since 15 and they are on mil leave do they still need to upgrade in order to flow?

rld1k 10-07-2019 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by FAIPMAFIA (Post 2899767)
If someone has been with the company since 15 and they are on mil leave do they still need to upgrade in order to flow?

Yea I'm pretty sure they made that requirement because of the people hanging out on mil and med leave

buddies8 10-07-2019 01:18 PM

Yes, want to flow then you have to come back and pay your dues.
Those days were over a year ago.

MD-11Loader 10-07-2019 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by FAIPMAFIA (Post 2899767)
If someone has been with the company since 15 and they are on mil leave do they still need to upgrade in order to flow?

Yes. Letter 18-01 outlines the requirements to flow. Even the PP’s have been subject to it after coming off of MIL leave.

FAIPMAFIA 10-07-2019 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2899803)
Yes, want to flow then you have to come back and pay your dues.
Those days were over a year ago.

Pay what dues?


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