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Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 2955982)
And how long before that junior captain actually holds a line?
and for bonus points, how long before they hold a line anywhere but PHL or LGA? :D |
Don’t shoot the messenger. Just saying $260 an hour second year may make the pain of reserve easier for some.
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
(Post 2955940)
To answer your question, we had 4 pilots leave for AA last year. IIRC all are very junior FO. I flew with one of them. Her dad is a very senior 737 CA at AA. There’s 22 pilots who left Envoy to come to Spirit last year, some were close to a flow. I would think if AA was so great they would have waited. Same with the guys who left PSA and didn’t wait for the flow.
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
(Post 2956008)
Out of curiosity, do you have the numbers on how many left for DL, UAL, FX and UPS?
Do you have AA attrition numbers on pilots who have left for other airlines? Because I know pilots are currently even leaving SWA for other places. And to be honest, unless it says Delta, every airline has some serious improvements to do. |
Originally Posted by Omniscient
(Post 2956017)
6, 4, 2, and 2 for 2019..19 FOs total left and 5 CAs. People aren't leaving, thats a 1% attrition rate for pilots leaving for other airlines.
Do you have AA attrition numbers on pilots who leave? Because I know pilots are currently even leaving SWA for other places. And to be honest, unless it says Delta, every airline has some serious improvement to do. |
Originally Posted by Silver02ex
(Post 2955940)
To answer your question, we had 4 pilots leave for AA last year. IIRC all are very junior FO. I flew with one of them. Her dad is a very senior 737 CA at AA. There’s 22 pilots who left Envoy to come to Spirit last year, some were close to a flow. I would think if AA was so great they would have waited. Same with the guys who left PSA and didn’t wait for the flow.
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Originally Posted by HalyardJammer
(Post 2956884)
I know that at least 1 line check airman from Envoy skipped the flow last year.
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I left for a low cost
I came to the USA 3 years ago from Europe. Over there we did out and backs. You get spoiled being in your own bed every night. My first job in the USA was one of the Regionals with flow. I had the best gig you could get in the regionals - training department. Have to admit, travel got to me, even though I was positive spaced and car rental especially when a heath scare creeps up. The American group and my regional treated me well and based on numbers flow for me would have been 2 ish more years. What would I have gotten at American? Same lifestyle, a lot more money. For me wealth is secondary, being home nightly is my priority when looking at the long game. To each their own, do what’s best for you and your situation.
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Originally Posted by iaveight
(Post 2957072)
I came to the USA 3 years ago from Europe. Over there we did out and backs. You get spoiled being in your own bed every night. My first job in the USA was one of the Regionals with flow. I had the best gig you could get in the regionals - training department. Have to admit, travel got to me, even though I was positive spaced and car rental especially when a heath scare creeps up. The American group and my regional treated me well and based on numbers flow for me would have been 2 ish more years. What would I have gotten at American? Same lifestyle, a lot more money. For me wealth is secondary, being home nightly is my priority when looking at the long game. To each their own, do what’s best for you and your situation.
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Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 2955616)
Yeah pretty much this. Spirit has better numbers and is setup financially much better than AA. Sure if you can put in a full 30 years at AA you are better off financially but much short of that, I bet you can make more at the ULCC.
Anyway, this isnt meant to be a Spirit sales pitch but rather an illustration that the flow and AA are not the only options people have. Each should make the choice for what is best for them. I have an app in and I am scheduled to flow soon, so let that sink in. |
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