Envoy 2020
03-26-2020, 09:23 AM
#371
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
I (we, but mostly me) tried in 2013. We had it worked out with APA for a single list. Short version is after three meetings the company wouldn't go along. Hopefully their attitude has changed. That said, you now have an APA BOD twice the size of the one we had to work with. Also, with the E190 going away, the gap jet fence, would have the be elsewhere. Finally, you have three WO eagles now instead of just one. First step, if I may suggest....
Envoy dump ALPA and select APA
Envoy then file single carrier against the other two Eagles forcing a representation vote. Same uniforms, same branding, same ticket sales source, same controlling parent, just about all the triggers for single carrier are already there. ALPA won't want to do it because they know it eventually leads to thousands of members leaving for another union. Obviously AA/Envoy win that and now everybody is APA.
The rest I'll leave to you. Feel free to call if you want the old paperwork on what was worked out previously.
Envoy dump ALPA and select APA
Envoy then file single carrier against the other two Eagles forcing a representation vote. Same uniforms, same branding, same ticket sales source, same controlling parent, just about all the triggers for single carrier are already there. ALPA won't want to do it because they know it eventually leads to thousands of members leaving for another union. Obviously AA/Envoy win that and now everybody is APA.
The rest I'll leave to you. Feel free to call if you want the old paperwork on what was worked out previously.
03-26-2020, 11:21 AM
#372
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
I (we, but mostly me) tried in 2013. We had it worked out with APA for a single list. Short version is after three meetings the company wouldn't go along. Hopefully their attitude has changed. That said, you now have an APA BOD twice the size of the one we had to work with. Also, with the E190 going away, the gap jet fence, would have the be elsewhere. Finally, you have three WO eagles now instead of just one. First step, if I may suggest....
Envoy dump ALPA and select APA
Envoy then file single carrier against the other two Eagles forcing a representation vote. Same uniforms, same branding, same ticket sales source, same controlling parent, just about all the triggers for single carrier are already there. ALPA won't want to do it because they know it eventually leads to thousands of members leaving for another union. Obviously AA/Envoy win that and now everybody is APA.
The rest I'll leave to you. Feel free to call if you want the old paperwork on what was worked out previously.
Envoy dump ALPA and select APA
Envoy then file single carrier against the other two Eagles forcing a representation vote. Same uniforms, same branding, same ticket sales source, same controlling parent, just about all the triggers for single carrier are already there. ALPA won't want to do it because they know it eventually leads to thousands of members leaving for another union. Obviously AA/Envoy win that and now everybody is APA.
The rest I'll leave to you. Feel free to call if you want the old paperwork on what was worked out previously.
A. Interesting. Thanks.
B. Probably not the time for it right now.
C. I’m not sure APA would want to trigger a vote at AA. How confident do you think they are that they’d win?
03-26-2020, 12:25 PM
#373
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First you have to decertify alpa and apa come on property seeking to represent you simultaneously.
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03-26-2020, 12:48 PM
#374
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Bad news all, the FEMA Waffle House Index is trending in the wrong direction. They only closed 100 for hurricane Katrina and are already up to 400 closures for Covid.
This could be it.
This could be it.
03-26-2020, 12:51 PM
#375
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Bad news all, the FEMA Waffle House Index is trending in the wrong direction. They only closed 100 for hurricane Katrina and are already up to 400 closures for Covid.
This could be it.
This could be it.
03-26-2020, 02:50 PM
#376
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My paycheck is not showing up on epays? I wonder if Dougie is buying some more stock buyback with my paycheck.
03-26-2020, 02:58 PM
#377
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Originally Posted by MqWhistleblower
My paycheck is not showing up on epays? I wonder if Dougie is buying some more stock buyback with my paycheck.
03-26-2020, 04:38 PM
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So today in TX, Governor put out a mandatory 14-day quarantine for anyone coming from NY, NJ, CT or the city of New Orleans.
it says that “This order to self-quarantine shall not apply to people traveling in connection with military service, emergency response, health response, or critical-infrastructure functions, as may be determined by the Texas Division of Emergency Management.
I would assume we are under “Critical-infrastructure functions” but does anybody know where to find this in writing?
it says that “This order to self-quarantine shall not apply to people traveling in connection with military service, emergency response, health response, or critical-infrastructure functions, as may be determined by the Texas Division of Emergency Management.
I would assume we are under “Critical-infrastructure functions” but does anybody know where to find this in writing?
03-26-2020, 05:12 PM
#380
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Originally Posted by GoFast8
So today in TX, Governor put out a mandatory 14-day quarantine for anyone coming from NY, NJ, CT or the city of New Orleans.
it says that “This order to self-quarantine shall not apply to people traveling in connection with military service, emergency response, health response, or critical-infrastructure functions, as may be determined by the Texas Division of Emergency Management.
I would assume we are under “Critical-infrastructure functions” but does anybody know where to find this in writing?
it says that “This order to self-quarantine shall not apply to people traveling in connection with military service, emergency response, health response, or critical-infrastructure functions, as may be determined by the Texas Division of Emergency Management.
I would assume we are under “Critical-infrastructure functions” but does anybody know where to find this in writing?
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