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ClappedOut145 05-12-2020 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by FlyLikeEmu (Post 3053995)
Miami/ FO ....... At this point just knowing when we’ll receive an answer would be great.

The list was posted over the weekend on the ALPA webpage. Looks like three MFE were awarded a leave.

FlyLikeEmu 05-12-2020 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3054030)
The list was posted over the weekend on the ALPA webpage. Looks like three MFE were awarded a leave.

I did see that. Not sure when those individuals submitted their CSLOA requests though. I’m sure it was well before the 8 May deadline for it to have posted so soon. It took me until the last day to commit to it. (May regret it if it’s accepted, damned uncertainty)

and the comment about not offering CSLOA to a base with 0 lines.... envoy has been good to me and I really can’t complain too much, good group of crew members here.... but scheduling, damn. Some perplexing decisions are made there. Like when you can’t drop a trip that’s a dead head to ORD to fly an airplane with 5 people of which 3 are a full crew on the equipment you just flew them on for them to take a loss day in AZO... lol.

Vne469 05-12-2020 09:55 AM

Coming off 1 month CSLOA, how do I bid for June? It doesnt look like I am “active” on FOS, so do I send the CPO my bid and they enter it?

CaseTractor 05-12-2020 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by Vne469 (Post 3054148)
Coming off 1 month CSLOA, how do I bid for June? It doesnt look like I am “active” on FOS, so do I send the CPO my bid and they enter it?

If this is like mil leave, just let the CPO know the issue. If there is time, which there is, they will notify the proper offices to make you active again. It involves a sign off from training, security, and some other office. Once made active, then you can bid yourself.

In a pinch, the CPO is supposed to bid for you if this process above fails or was not accomplished in time.

But seriously 05-12-2020 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by Vne469 (Post 3054148)
Coming off 1 month CSLOA, how do I bid for June? It doesnt look like I am “active” on FOS, so do I send the CPO my bid and they enter it?

Email the CPO. They should be able to activate you, but if they can’t they’ll help you get it submitted. ORD CPO has been very helpful to me with that kind of stuff.

If they do get you activated, I highly recommend bidding early. They can fix stuff, but you don’t want to be doing it at 11:45 on the 20th.

ShooterMcGavin 05-13-2020 01:36 PM

Looks like the CP birds are going to be in service soon. Just a few weeks ago they were talking about storing them for 6-12 months.

THKooj 05-13-2020 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by ShooterMcGavin (Post 3055081)
Looks like the CP birds are going to be in service soon. Just a few weeks ago they were talking about storing them for 6-12 months.

Yup, word just came out last week at the higher levels that the storage plan was scrapped and these were slated to fly ASAP. Traffic is picking up and the forecast for June and July are looking better than planned. Great news for Envoy and it's tracking what I've been saying for the past 2 weeks that we are coming out of this and demand is slowly returning.

But seriously 05-13-2020 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3055171)
Yup, word just came out last week at the higher levels that the storage plan was scrapped and these were slated to fly ASAP. Traffic is picking up and the forecast for June and July are looking better than planned. Great news for Envoy and it's tracking what I've been saying for the past 2 weeks that we are coming out of this and demand is slowly returning.


Given your track record on “inside information”, I expect them to announce furloughs tomorrow...

TexAg11 05-13-2020 04:49 PM

I’ve heard the 140s are coming offline sooner than later, NYC flying closed by end of year and 140 mtx bases to follow. Plan to speed up those compass birds and expect a lot of 175 training in the next year. Disheartening news since I’m based in New York. But who knows what actually happens...

THKooj 05-13-2020 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by TexAg11 (Post 3055193)
I’ve heard the 140s are coming offline sooner than later, NYC flying closed by end of year and 140 mtx bases to follow. Plan to speed up those compass birds and expect a lot of 175 training in the next year. Disheartening news since I’m based in New York. But who knows what actually happens...

These birds weren’t scheduled to fly forever. Now that the CP birds are home and with the drop in demand, it’s a great time to phase the 140s out. Expect most of the CP 175s in DFW initially with some LA fly through.


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