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highfarfast 05-13-2020 06:38 PM

Well, there was a line or two in a company email a couple days ago that mentioned all short term parked airplanes returning to service by June 3rd. That seemed so far off base from what's been going on that I figured something was a mistake. Then I just saw this article:

https://simpleflying.com/american-embraer-returns/

Looks like at least Envoy will be busy this summer.

Cyio 05-13-2020 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3055171)
Yup, word just came out last week at the higher levels that the storage plan was scrapped and these were slated to fly ASAP. Traffic is picking up and the forecast for June and July are looking better than planned. Great news for Envoy and it's tracking what I've been saying for the past 2 weeks that we are coming out of this and demand is slowly returning.

Shut the F up. Higher levels, give me a break. You have consistently been wrong with your “inside” info so don’t act you like you are some sage of information.

The only reason we are doing it is because we are cheaper than mainline crews. This is a cost savings measure, nothing else and should be looked on as a bad thing. More regional flying means less mainline flying which means we work longer for significantly less pay, less qol and less retirement/vacation.

Couple all of that with AA stock being at an all time low today and I see very little to be excited about.

highfarfast 05-13-2020 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3055312)
Shut the F up. Higher levels, give me a break. You have consistently been wrong with your “inside” info so don’t act you like you are some sage of information.

The only reason we are doing it is because we are cheaper than mainline crews. This is a cost savings measure, nothing else and should be looked on as a bad thing. More regional flying means less mainline flying which means we work longer for significantly less pay, less qol and less retirement/vacation.

Couple all of that with AA stock being at an all time low today and I see very little to be excited about.

Read the article I posted. We're bringing all our short term storage planes out of storage to put them back to work. Part of that is because we're going to cover mainline flying as you say... but we're the only regional feeder that's getting the green light too. WE will be busy. But if mainline and all the other AA regionals are sitting on the sideline, I'd hardly call the industry bouncing back like that doofus is posting.

Tyrion 05-13-2020 10:17 PM

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Happyflyer 05-14-2020 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3055171)
Yup, word just came out last week at the higher levels that the storage plan was scrapped and these were slated to fly ASAP. Traffic is picking up and the forecast for June and July are looking better than planned. Great news for Envoy and it's tracking what I've been saying for the past 2 weeks that we are coming out of this and demand is slowly returning.

Could just be RJ market share changing. What are Skywest, Mesa, and RAH, Eagle flights doing?

nootpilot 05-14-2020 05:23 AM

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  • Demand for air travel will lag behind pre-coronavirus forecasts for at least five more years, according to the latest projections from an industry trade group

The International Air Transport Association, or IATA, says global traffic will still be about 10 per cent below original estimates in 2025.

The IATA doesn't see travel recovering to last year's levels until 2023, but says factors that drove a decades-long boom in air travel ultimately drive up demand.

13 May 2020

pitchattitude 05-14-2020 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by nootpilot (Post 3055447)
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  • Demand for air travel will lag behind pre-coronavirus forecasts for at least five more years, according to the latest projections from an industry trade group

The International Air Transport Association, or IATA, says global traffic will still be about 10 per cent below original estimates in 2025.

The IATA doesn't see travel recovering to last year's levels until 2023, but says factors that drove a decades-long boom in air travel ultimately drive up demand.

13 May 2020

But I’m sure THKoolAid has better inside information than IATA.

OffAtTango 05-14-2020 09:19 AM

YX will have 54 of their 85 Eagle planes flying in June.

Gooch 05-14-2020 10:36 AM

that doesn’t mean demand is returning. It just means outsourced flying from legacies to cheaper operators to provide coverage. As previously stated, that is not a good thing.


Originally Posted by OffAtTango (Post 3055712)
YX will have 54 of their 85 Eagle planes flying in June.


Longhornmaniac8 05-14-2020 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by OffAtTango (Post 3055712)
YX will have 54 of their 85 Eagle planes flying in June.

And that's a little misleading, as it's a daily average (I saw 53) that is drawn down a decent chunk by the reduced flying for AA on Tuesdays and Saturdays. Most of the days in June have 61 airplanes flying.


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