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Spoiler 08-19-2020 04:17 AM

Ahh the Hitler rants parade of hits keeps on coming.
This time it's PSA mgmt. trying to score points. Hoping the pilots say enough is enough because this is likely the last stop on the train for them in their aviation career. Make the best of it.

pitchattitude 08-19-2020 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 3112055)
Ahh the Hitler rants parade of hits keeps on coming.
This time it's PSA mgmt. trying to score points. Hoping the pilots say enough is enough because this is likely the last stop on the train for them in their aviation career. Make the best of it.

Unfortunately this latest downturn has likely made where ever your at the last stop for a lot of us. Seems like these cycles have been eight or ten years, but this down turn has been even worse. Could it come back, sure but we’ve already seen several regionals shuttered and HUGE capacity reduction that will likely take years to recover. Like always, timing is everything and no one can know or control that. Some just don’t have the time left in their careers to wait this out.

Cyio 08-19-2020 05:52 AM

Anyone aware of a policy stating flight crews, including FA's, cant use neck gators for a face mask? Had the topic come up today and just wanted to make sure I was correct in my understanding.

uavking 08-19-2020 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3112048)
Anyone in the know care to message me, or just post here if able, if we can plan on having another round of cancelations in September like we did August? My hunch is yes, but just wanted to confirm.

Skimming through the list of schedule changes via OAG here points to cancellations: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1450555

ClappedOut145 08-19-2020 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3112048)
Anyone in the know care to message me, or just post here if able, if we can plan on having another round of cancelations in September like we did August? My hunch is yes, but just wanted to confirm.

They look like they were processed into the September bid packets, so unless there is even more downturn, then the September bids should hold.

Cyio 08-19-2020 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3112129)
They look like they were processed into the September bid packets, so unless there is even more downturn, then the September bids should hold.

OK, so one more question I probably already know the answer too. Looking at Toms list he put out, there are 200 OCL's right now. With ~60 lines in September, are we really looking at ~140 reserve pilots?

uavking 08-19-2020 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3112156)
OK, so one more question I probably already know the answer too. Looking at Toms list he put out, there are 200 OCL's right now. With ~60 lines in September, are we really looking at ~140 reserve pilots?

Yep. (Filler)

pangolin 08-19-2020 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3110758)
I’ll bite. Something drastic happened to June flying and multiple sources said it was a DP JO BR tiff over cares money and cancel fees. If that’s not what happened then what did then?

[MENTION=54707]dera[/MENTION] - I’m still waiting.

martyByrde 08-19-2020 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by uavking (Post 3112018)
Supposedly, their management is pursuing permanent concessions, and will not entertain temporary relief as offered by their MEC (what was proposed there, I do not know), per a buddy there. We all remember what happened around AIP time last year, and in 2014, so take that for what it's worth.

maybe they’ll undercut Mesa for their CRJs


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