This is my understanding of it as well. The company could cancel that pay so long as they did it to all the captains.

Envoy 2020
 

No regional airline is premier.

Envoy has a chip to let down. Period.

Fellow Envoiers...... MESA AIRLINE earned a profit last quarter. Take that FWIIW. They are more likely to survive a Bankruptcy or down turn than Envoy Air.


https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/...q2-profit.html

Also be careful which carrier you guys talk shippp about. May need to ask a pilot known there for a recommendation one day.

Small changing industry.

Everybody mocks Mesa, it’s just a meme. I mean, I didn’t used to until they denied me a jumpseat to Dallas last summer, no reason given. You could say they’re asking for it.

That’s interesting, if I had to take a WAG I’d say it would have been O2 levels because there really isn’t much difference between a full bottle and the 3 crew member minimum with the 900. And with some of them approaching 20 years old now they do tend to lose 02 pressure over the course of a couple days. Either way it’s pretty BS they wouldn’t let you know why, but with some of our jaded PHX CA’s I can’t say I’m really surprised. Sorry that happened to you man, did you say anything to your jumpseat committee at all? If you didn’t then we really have no way of telling you what actually happened or “correcting” this CA if it was something that should have never happened.

honestly I’m sorry that happened on behalf of the whole pilot group. You’d never had been left by me or 99.9% of any other crews. Those guys are prixx for not getting you on. Mocking doesn’t bother most of us, all good fun. My bff went to Envoy and I went to Mesa its fun to compare notes and talk shiz.

I always make the walk. Some don’t and never know there was a guy missed because of a gate agent.

Could have been occupied by a check airman.

The only thing Envoy really had going for it above Mesa was the flow. In hindsight I wish I would have gone with Mesa, at least I wouldn't have to commute.

And you could have spent more time drinking!

And the company can very easily vacate those seat locks again to avoid the payments. I don’t think there were any 145 captains awarded and if no one is going to the 145 from the 175 then a seat lock means nothing. I don’t think there will be anyone trained on the 145 again at Envoy.