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Envoy 2020
Originally Posted by THKooj
(Post 3108056)
Yeah? And so what. In March the docs in charge said if we didn't shutdown we would have 2 to 3 million deaths at worst and with full mitigation, 100 to 200k by May 31st. Here we are in mid August just crossing the 150k mark of deaths, largely from at risk individuals such as older, underlying health conditions, etc. Take a look at the gubmint death numbers and divide by the known case numbers. The death rate is tracking right along with influenza now and dropping. If you are an at risk individual, stay home or take precautions.
5 million cases? So what? We are all going to get it sometime and along with that comes herd immunity where a vaccine isn't really necessary. If you happen to be scared by the media mind meld poisoning, I suggest you take a long term leave and quarantine yourself while the rest of us get on with the business of life bringing the economy back with it. Ok, can you even define herd immunity? No? Well, herd immunity requires an effective vaccine along the way . herd im·mu·ni·ty noun the resistance to the spread of a contagious disease within a population that results if a sufficiently high proportion of individuals are immune to the disease, especially through vaccination. "the level of vaccination needed to achieve herd immunity varies by disease but ranges from 83 to 94 percent" The only way IMO damage to this industry (including Envoy) is even remotely mitigated is through a combination of CARES PT 2 and a vaccine announced before those funds run out. Because as fun as the summer numbers have been, big dollar business travel won’t resume until big dollar companies are confident they aren’t sending their money generating lambs to the slaughter. Regardless of your personal opinion on the “media” and masks . |
herd im·mu·ni·ty
noun the resistance to the spread of a contagious disease within a population that results if a sufficiently high proportion of individuals are immune to the disease, especially through vaccination. "the level of vaccination needed to achieve herd immunity varies by disease but ranges from 83 to 94 percent" Here's the definition when google is not used (oxford dictionary): herd immunity (noun) · herd immunities (plural noun)
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Well there’s a reason for the emphasis on a vaccine. Assuming you need 50% of the population to get sick and recover (and that percentage is a guess, nobody knows what herd immunity looks like for corona), the health care system would implode. It’s already overwhelmed in many parts of the country with just 5 million cases. You’re talking 150 million+ cases of an extremely transmissible disease. Yes, many are asymptomatic, but still. The vaccine argument for herd immunity makes a lot more sense. Just ask any livestock rancher.
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Originally Posted by jake cutter
(Post 3108253)
Well there’s a reason for the emphasis on a vaccine. Assuming you need 50% of the population to get sick and recover (and that percentage is a guess, nobody knows what herd immunity looks like for corona), the health care system would implode. It’s already overwhelmed in many parts of the country with just 5 million cases. You’re talking 150 million+ cases of an extremely transmissible disease. Yes, many are asymptomatic, but still. The vaccine argument for herd immunity makes a lot more sense. Just ask any livestock rancher.
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
(Post 3108347)
Since this is the Envoy 2020 thread, let’s stop having ****ing matches over who thinks they’re a better epidemiologist, or psychic reader, and talk about the ‘Voy.
Republic is getting shafted out of Miami and Envoy will take over, with 175s there. NY is closing with a full base displacement bid taking place in September, and all 50 seaters parked within the next 12 months. Debate. Go. |
There are equipment related reasons why Envoy cannot totally displace Republic from Miami.
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Originally Posted by But seriously
(Post 3108388)
Are those WAGs or inside info?
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
(Post 3108396)
There are equipment related reasons why Envoy cannot totally displace Republic from Miami.
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
(Post 3108409)
Those “equipment related reasons” are nothing that AAG couldn’t choose to change. IDK for sure, but I doubt that every RAH plane flown for AAG has the overwater equipment. Envoy could change opspec and carry the equipment on just enough aircraft to cover the flying. Does it make logistics slightly more difficult, sure, but it can be done. Envoy had a choice of Canada or Caribbean. They chose the Great White North. They didn’t want the weight penalty for the overwater equipment. But again, I don’t think they would have to equip the whole fleet. But either way, it’s a strategic choice.
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