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ClappedOut145 06-08-2020 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by dk104444 (Post 3071916)
Did we suspend all Union management meetings? Why is there no email for a month?

A TLDR came out not too long ago from the MEC. I would hope that the MEC is starting to prepare for October when the company comes for the few "valuable" things that we have in the amendment round.

Cujo665 06-08-2020 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Tyrion (Post 3067141)
Wasn't that also the time that they were trying to sell Eagle? On paper, or on computer, it doesn't really mean much. If AE, Envoy whatever were really profitable, AAG wouldn't be outsourcing that flying to various 3rd parties. Skywest turns a profit because they have customers (AA, Delta, United, Alaska). They had over a $3B market cap before corona because of it. Envoy is just a line item. Our revenue (on paper) is whatever AAG wants it to be.


Eagle was for sale or being spun off almost every 4 years of the contract right before or during contract negotiations. They lie all the time. They claimed to never have exact cost/expense or know the exact revenue from running EagleVoy. The bankruptcy forced them to open to open the actual books. They know to the penny where everything goes and comes from. Everything else was a lie. If they’re telling you they don’t know, they’re lying.

they outsource for flexibility, whipsaw, backup and buffers. Places like Skywest make money because the CPA has an agreed upon %profit built right in it. It used to be almost 10% in the 200’s. I’d say that down to costs plus 5 or 6% these days. AAG plays one contract feeder off the other in a bidding war of who’ll do it the cheapest.... just like they play PDT, PSA and ENY against each other.

keep telling yourself Envoy is just a line item. I’ll tell you for a fact that when they opened their books they knew exactly how much that “line item” earned them. It was around $100M a year on average.

Captian Open 06-08-2020 12:20 PM

They’re coming for our OT rates

Shiner 06-08-2020 04:24 PM

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NoValueAviator 06-08-2020 07:32 PM

Doesn't sound very cost neutral to me. Sounds like a fat, delicious boiled egg for Pedro to devour.

dera 06-08-2020 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3072264)
Doesn't sound very cost neutral to me. Sounds like a fat, delicious boiled egg for Pedro to devour.

An average egg only contains 5g of fat. So can't be that fat of an egg.

NoValueAviator 06-09-2020 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3072324)
An average egg only contains 5g of fat. So can't be that fat of an egg.

It's an ostrich egg. Our OT rules are one of the the best things in our otherwise lousy contract.

MqWhistleblower 06-09-2020 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3072423)
It's an ostrich egg. Our OT rules are one of the the best things in our otherwise lousy contract.

indeed! I love picking up OT or appropriating at the voy.

ClappedOut145 06-09-2020 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by MqWhistleblower (Post 3072433)
indeed! I love picking up OT or appropriating at the voy.

Good man. Using your contractual rights to the fullest extent.

Cyio 06-12-2020 05:52 AM

July bids are out.


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