They are looking for a 30 hour window within the last 7 days on both sides of the trip meaning you are legal to pick it up. If it's a stand alone trip then the before the trip rest period ends at sign in time and starts 30 hours earlier. The rest period at the end of the trip starts 15 minutes after scheduled arrival time for domestic or 30 minutes for international and that rest period ends 30 hours after that.

It starts getting confusing when you throw in reserve days etc. For the purposes of calculating a 30 hour window, on day one of reserve you duty on at 4:00AM and on the last day even though you don't know your assignment on the last day you need to assume you are on duty until midnight.

So let's say you are working reserve Monday-Friday and you want to pick up OT on Sunday or the day before you go on reserve. You end up working 6 days in a row which is the max. You have to go off duty from your OT by 18:00 so you are legal at 4:00AM. Those 6 days all turn into a trip for the purposes of calculating 30 hours of rest so the 30 hour clock starts at Midnight between Friday and Saturday and ends 30 hours after that.

Instead of picking up OT before your 5 days of reserve you decide you want to pick it up on Saturday after reserve. You can't have a sign in time any earlier than 10:00AM because you could be on duty until midnight. For the 30 hours rest calculation. Mon-Sat is now a "whole trip" the rest before the trip ends at 4:00AM on Monday and starts 30 hours before that. The rest after the trip ends following the 15 or 30 minute rule I described earlier.

Hope this helps everyone out.

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Thank you for that! Very much appreciated!


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When can we expect the displacement bid?

I'm junior for my seat and would like to know if I can hold it going forward.

Union needs to step its game up and tell us how many possible furloughs, instead of vague financial responsibility emails.
We are all adults and need our money's worth instead of don't buy a PS4, lawn lawnmower, and or a boat lol.

Have you considered the possibility that the Union might not have those numbers?

I wouldn't buy a boat if I were you.

Historically, the company doesn't tell the union anything until right before (or after ) they send an email or hi6 about it. so the union is probably going to be blindsided just like the rest of us

Hmm ok. That's good to know. Learn something every day.

i know you are being sarcastic. I'm just agreeing

You guys are skipping a step.
First they obtain concessions from PSA. Then they tell us that we aren’t competitive with them so we need to take a pay cut to avoid losing all our flying to them necessitating furloughs.

If they just straight furlough us, how can they have their cake and eat it too?