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Old 06-08-2020 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyrion
Wasn't that also the time that they were trying to sell Eagle? On paper, or on computer, it doesn't really mean much. If AE, Envoy whatever were really profitable, AAG wouldn't be outsourcing that flying to various 3rd parties. Skywest turns a profit because they have customers (AA, Delta, United, Alaska). They had over a $3B market cap before corona because of it. Envoy is just a line item. Our revenue (on paper) is whatever AAG wants it to be.

Eagle was for sale or being spun off almost every 4 years of the contract right before or during contract negotiations. They lie all the time. They claimed to never have exact cost/expense or know the exact revenue from running EagleVoy. The bankruptcy forced them to open to open the actual books. They know to the penny where everything goes and comes from. Everything else was a lie. If they’re telling you they don’t know, they’re lying.

they outsource for flexibility, whipsaw, backup and buffers. Places like Skywest make money because the CPA has an agreed upon %profit built right in it. It used to be almost 10% in the 200’s. I’d say that down to costs plus 5 or 6% these days. AAG plays one contract feeder off the other in a bidding war of who’ll do it the cheapest.... just like they play PDT, PSA and ENY against each other.

keep telling yourself Envoy is just a line item. I’ll tell you for a fact that when they opened their books they knew exactly how much that “line item” earned them. It was around $100M a year on average.
Old 06-08-2020 | 12:20 PM
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They’re coming for our OT rates
Old 06-08-2020 | 04:24 PM
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Old 06-08-2020 | 07:32 PM
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Doesn't sound very cost neutral to me. Sounds like a fat, delicious boiled egg for Pedro to devour.
Old 06-08-2020 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
Doesn't sound very cost neutral to me. Sounds like a fat, delicious boiled egg for Pedro to devour.
An average egg only contains 5g of fat. So can't be that fat of an egg.
Old 06-09-2020 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
An average egg only contains 5g of fat. So can't be that fat of an egg.
It's an ostrich egg. Our OT rules are one of the the best things in our otherwise lousy contract.
Old 06-09-2020 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
It's an ostrich egg. Our OT rules are one of the the best things in our otherwise lousy contract.
indeed! I love picking up OT or appropriating at the voy.
Old 06-09-2020 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MqWhistleblower
indeed! I love picking up OT or appropriating at the voy.
Good man. Using your contractual rights to the fullest extent.
Old 06-12-2020 | 05:52 AM
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July bids are out.
Old 06-13-2020 | 06:48 AM
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The 08-P2 departure/arrival summary reports are out
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