Paid LOA
04-01-2020 | 08:49 AM
#151
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Dollars to donuts the MEC accepts the CSLOA regardless of the membership response. From their responses online it’s clear they are in violent agreement with the LOA. They believe the membership doesn’t understand the purpose of this LOA and that’s why we are against it. If we only saw it from their point of view we would support it and therefore they will vote for it. They don’t seem to understand how this will screw the guys who take it. They will lie to us and tell us the majority of responses were positive. The phone call today will be interesting.
04-01-2020 | 08:54 AM
#152
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Dollars to donuts the MEC accepts the CSLOA regardless of the membership response. From their responses online it’s clear they are in violent agreement with the LOA. They believe the membership doesn’t understand the purpose of this LOA and that’s why we are against it. If we only saw it from their point of view we would support it and therefore they will vote for it. They don’t seem to understand how this will screw the guys who take it. They will lie to us and tell us the majority of responses were positive. The phone call today will be interesting.
04-01-2020 | 08:54 AM
#153
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it varies by state. When they kept firing me every 8 months I got well versed in the system. The food stamps were $510 a month for family of 3. The weekly unemployment was a max of $580... back in 2016. I checked yesterday and the max in my state is now $823 weekly. With the stimulus that would add an extra $600 weekly for up to four months for weekly total just over $1400. However, in the old rules you’d still be employed at 19 hours and not be eligible. Check the new stimulus rules as I think they are allowing some level of reduced income to still get unemployment.... you’d have to check in your home state.
04-01-2020 | 09:03 AM
#154
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Dollars to donuts the MEC accepts the CSLOA regardless of the membership response. From their responses online it’s clear they are in violent agreement with the LOA. They believe the membership doesn’t understand the purpose of this LOA and that’s why we are against it. If we only saw it from their point of view we would support it and therefore they will vote for it. They don’t seem to understand how this will screw the guys who take it. They will lie to us and tell us the majority of responses were positive. The phone call today will be interesting.
Problem solved.
04-01-2020 | 09:05 AM
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04-01-2020 | 09:06 AM
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I dont think an leave of abscence qualifies for any of the above. It does allow you to be sent home still on payroll with cut in pay made up by unemployment. Technically the leave is the issue but what do I know with all the changes happening.
good rule to live by is apply, worse case scenario is they say no, nothing lost but everything to gain
good rule to live by is apply, worse case scenario is they say no, nothing lost but everything to gain
04-01-2020 | 09:18 AM
#157
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We have. I am starting to see a loose pattern and that is our new MEC just throws the information out there and gets a feel for the reaction from the pilot group. This is technically better than what our past MEC's did, which was just blindly accept things without our knowledge, but it does appear to cause moments of intense panic among our pilots. lol, oh well. What do they say, a pilot is never happy?
I personally do not see this deal passing. This much public anger over it just means there’s lots and lots more just below the surface. I think the company will need to pony up some more.
your reps are doing good work. Communicate with them what it will take for a deal something like this to pass. Don’t do it here.
It most likely will not be a pilot vote. The 10 day posting period is to obtain feedback and direction from the pilots before the MEC votes. They could send it to an all pilot vote, but it is up to them. So, call or email your reps.
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04-01-2020 | 09:20 AM
#158
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I dont think an leave of abscence qualifies for any of the above. It does allow you to be sent home still on payroll with cut in pay made up by unemployment. Technically the leave is the issue but what do I know with all the changes happening.
good rule to live by is apply, worse case scenario is they say no, nothing lost but everything to gain
good rule to live by is apply, worse case scenario is they say no, nothing lost but everything to gain
04-01-2020 | 09:37 AM
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We’ve learned plenty. I was done arguing but since you brought it back up.... some of you are the biggest entitled crybabies I’ve ever come across in my entire life. Someone who overdoses on LSD, acid, and shrooms is more in touch with reality than you.
04-01-2020 | 09:48 AM
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if your MEC is again not communicating with the others, that isn’t good.
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