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ClappedOut145 08-21-2020 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by NotChewbacca (Post 3113312)
Another LTLOA deadline without a CARES act extension. We gonna get yet another extension to the LTLOA bid? I mean I’m sure there are scores of pilots who need the weekend to consider.

What’s the over under on takers? I’ll start the bidding with 50 (wish it were higher for the new guys sake).

I don’t think we will see more than 20

DescendVia 08-21-2020 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by NotChewbacca (Post 3113312)
Another LTLOA deadline without a CARES act extension. We gonna get yet another extension to the LTLOA bid? I mean I’m sure there are scores of pilots who need the weekend to consider.

What’s the over under on takers? I’ll start the bidding with 50 (wish it were higher for the new guys sake).


I’d be shocked if it was near 50. Maybe we will be pleasantly surprised though. Spirit’s pilots sure looked like they got their ******* together. How do we get into that union?

Cyio 08-21-2020 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by DescendVia (Post 3113648)
I’d be shocked if it was near 50. Maybe we will be pleasantly surprised though. Spirit’s pilots sure looked like they got their ******* together. How do we get into that union?

I would be willing to bet they had a better deal offered to them.

3GreenKSNA 08-21-2020 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3113671)
I would be willing to bet they had a better deal offered to them.

Yea they were offered 50 hours of pay.

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ClappedOut145 08-21-2020 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by DescendVia (Post 3113648)
I’d be shocked if it was near 50. Maybe we will be pleasantly surprised though. Spirit’s pilots sure looked like they got their ******* together. How do we get into that union?

You go work for an airline that 100% controls all of its flying. Southwest, Spirit, JetBlue, and Frontier don’t have regional carriers feeding them. The buck starts and ends with them. Envoy has zero leverage. We are a staffing company that only has pilots. We don’t own planes, we don’t own routes/slots, and we don’t own terminals. We are a cost center.

cbrpilot 08-21-2020 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3113789)
You go work for an airline that 100% controls all of its flying. Southwest, Spirit, JetBlue, and Frontier don’t have regional carriers feeding them. The buck starts and ends with them. Envoy has zero leverage. We are a staffing company that only has pilots. We don’t own planes, we don’t own routes/slots, and we don’t own terminals. We are a cost center.

This guy gets it.

SilentLurker 08-22-2020 09:16 AM

No leverage during a down cycle. Sucks!

5-7yr recovery is a high probability.

Good luck during these hunger games.

SilentLurker out...

teamflyer 08-22-2020 06:51 PM

So i hear mainline APA is saying furloughs delayed and LTLOA extended. Shall we expect the same here as well?

NotChewbacca 08-24-2020 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by teamflyer (Post 3114261)
So i hear mainline APA is saying furloughs delayed and LTLOA extended. Shall we expect the same here as well?

So no news on this? I would have thought we’d have gotten a breakdown over the weekend from MEC.

THKooj 08-24-2020 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by NotChewbacca (Post 3114897)
So no news on this? I would have thought we’d have gotten a breakdown over the weekend from MEC.

Give it a little time. There is some maneuvering going on behind the scenes right now that should benefit all Envoy/AA guys. Can't reveal anymore than that at this time.


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