100% agreed. And now with October we have the amendment round. This should be a fun time for all.

 

Maybe the union should send a comm (dera?) about the history of concessions at Eagle, and the industry as a whole. Our benefits, including 401k, healthcare contribution, vacation, PTO, etc are all LESS than they were in the 90s and 00s, and not just for us, almost every airline, not to mention all the pensions that have been lost to management bonuses. It already takes almost 3 years just to get more than a week of vacation. Giving up anything at this point when were already paid the lowest of the low in the industry is just nonsense, especially with a company that is trying to force our hand and playing with peoples' lives by ignoring proposals and waiting until the last week to come to the table, only to offer major permanent concessions. No thanks, sorry to anyone reading this who has been furloughed but the industry will return, and you'll be in a better position from this.

 

“But, but, Ric called me and it was really classy! All you guys wanted was your OT!”

 

the history lesson is a good idea. Seriously fully support that endeavor.

Not sure if some would even listen to that since it’s almost unbelievable as complete truth. Too easy to say that was a long time ago and cannot happen again. It can and does. Look at XJT and CommutAir. I’ve flown with enough old grizzled Captains at several companies to be very paranoid. The 4 day trip with a grizzled lifer should be a 90 day currency like landings. The group as a whole would have a different perspective and half this stupid stuff wouldn’t even be considered.

 

Of course some of the guys getting furloughed would be willing to sacrifice anything in our contract to avoid losing their livelihood for the forseeable future. Completely understandable. I don't do much OT myself.


However, I might be giving management too much credit, but to me it seems like their automatic no to mitigation, crew room roadshows, and unwillingness to even consider addressing glaring sources of waste and abuse (cadet program) for savings before coming after pilot jobs makes this look political. It undermines solidarity and weakens us to further concessions, esp. when the AAG bankruptcy inevitably hits within the next 5 years. It also satisfies their desire to post job losses to motivate congress to make with the handouts.


Just remember guys, we're already extremely cheap as far as airline pilots go. If they want the OT letter or whatever else, they can afford to buy it back from us.

 

One of the vocal complainers doesn't realize he was in the group who was going to get furloughed no matter what. The company demanded things only to save the 72 line qualified senior pilots. The bottom 155 were toast even if the union gave everything the company wanted.
And even those 72 would only have been safe for 6 months, after that they would have been toast too, but the concessions were permanent - no expiration date offered.
Great deal.,

 

It's also hard to take some vocal critics seriously when they end their soapbox about how they can't pay bills with them taking a vacation to another country during a health pandemic.

 

May not have been a smart financial move all things considered. But hey, he deserved it. Treat yo self.

 

Also ending his post with "admittedly I don't know anything about the history of our contract or concessions"

 

So pretty much political theater? ”I don’t know why I'm yelling but it's all your fault.”