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Old 07-30-2021 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
To me, and I wish I'd known this before I interviewed at the regionals, the biggest difference between SKYW and us is that the SKYW people walk around with smiles on their faces. Everyone here is pretty miserable, rock bottom morale, sitting in our dead silent crew room pulling their masks up whenever someone new walks in. Plenty to speculate about here, a lot of people suggest that it's kool aid drinking over at SKYW and maybe it is to some extent but it's also something else. As an Envoy pilot I'll tell you, it's fatiguing always working with people who hate their jobs.
Well first of all stop hanging out in the Crew Room, this should help improve you’re mental health. Have your tried meditation, or a warm cup of tea?
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Old 07-30-2021 | 08:55 AM
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Well first of all stop hanging out in the Crew Room, this should help improve you’re mental health. Have your tried meditation, or a warm cup of tea?
I pass through to get to the toilets.

My mental health is immaculate, get out.
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Old 07-30-2021 | 11:56 AM
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Any chance for a new hire to be based at MIA? Can you request it?
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Old 07-30-2021 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by gradywhite27
Any chance for a new hire to be based at MIA? Can you request it?
There's a good chance now, but you'll have to be in the top of the class in terms of class seniority. It's a 175 only base, so if you get the 145 you will be permanently seatlocked on the 145 until upgrade, making it essentially impossible to ever see Miami as an FO.
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Old 07-30-2021 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
There's a good chance now, but you'll have to be in the top of the class in terms of class seniority. It's a 175 only base, so if you get the 145 you will be permanently seatlocked on the 145 until upgrade, making it essentially impossible to ever see Miami as an FO.

To give you an idea of how fast things change around here though, the simple phrase “175 only base” would have turned heads just 9 months ago.
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Old 07-30-2021 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
There's a good chance now, but you'll have to be in the top of the class in terms of class seniority. It's a 175 only base, so if you get the 145 you will be permanently seatlocked on the 145 until upgrade, making it essentially impossible to ever see Miami as an FO.
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To give you an idea of how fast things change around here though, the simple phrase “175 only base” would have turned heads just 9 months ago.
Thank you for your responses. That's correct. I only saw ENY 145s at MIA before RPA left.
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Old 07-31-2021 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
There's a good chance now, but you'll have to be in the top of the class in terms of class seniority. It's a 175 only base, so if you get the 145 you will be permanently seatlocked on the 145 until upgrade, making it essentially impossible to ever see Miami as an FO.
not really. There will likely be 145 displacements. That should open things up some too.
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Old 07-31-2021 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
not really. There will likely be 145 displacements. That should open things up some too.
Not likely. There is no reason to think there will be large scale displacements anytime soon. There are also lots of midrange or even senior FOs that want the 175 either for MIA or QOL. They would scoop up (PDIS) any displacements that happen. If you get assigned the 145 in training now, you’ll likely be on that airframe for most/all of your time as an FO.
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Old 07-31-2021 | 06:44 AM
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Not likely. There is no reason to think there will be large scale displacements anytime soon. There are also lots of midrange or even senior FOs that want the 175 either for MIA or QOL. They would scoop up (PDIS) any displacements that happen. If you get assigned the 145 in training now, you’ll likely be on that airframe for most/all of your time as an FO.
We have 7 E170s on the way (to ORD for now). SkyWest has 21 CRJ7s on the way (DFW, ORD and PHX) and that’s not including all their CRJs in LAX that will be moving back east in the next year as their 175s come in.

That’s a minimum of 28 65 seaters that will enter service (more likely 35-40) and their target flying will be what we do with the 145 now. The 145s will probably start to be retired pretty soon, so there very well could be displacements.
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Old 07-31-2021 | 07:10 AM
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We have 7 E170s on the way (to ORD for now). SkyWest has 21 CRJ7s on the way (DFW, ORD and PHX) and that’s not including all their CRJs in LAX that will be moving back east in the next year as their 175s come in.

That’s a minimum of 28 65 seaters that will enter service (more likely 35-40) and their target flying will be what we do with the 145 now. The 145s will probably start to be retired pretty soon, so there very well could be displacements.
I can’t even count anymore how many times I’ve been told that the 145/140’s are on their way to the scrap heap. This time is different… yep, heard that countless times too. I’m not saying it won’t happen this time, but I certainly wouldn’t take that as a given for transferring off the 145.

Even if they do decide to start shrinking it again, they could easily shrink the pilot group through attrition.
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