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vikaask 07-29-2021 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3270718)
There’s a lot of flux at the moment that’s going to make it an issue to give exacting details. That said, if things settle down to pre-COVID type of movement, you will not get 145 Dallas in class, you will likely be able to bid for and be awarded Dallas before finishing training, you will spend a few months in your original base before finally ‘flowing’ to Dallas.

But our fleet makeup and bases are different now so I don’t know how closely post COVID movement will look like pre-COVID movement.

Appreciate the detailed response. I wouldn't mind that kind of timeframe. I'll talk to my recruiter today and see if I can get a better idea. They told our interview class yesterday to expect a class sometime in October!

vikaask 07-29-2021 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3270722)
check the class drop thread for live announcements of current new hire assignments

Thanks I'll do that. My interview group was told to expect a class in Late September or some time in October so I'm hoping that holds true. Beats waiting till February for SKW

CLE to IAH 07-29-2021 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by vikaask (Post 3270794)
Beats waiting till February for SKW

Yeah. But are you sure?

vikaask 07-29-2021 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3270823)
Yeah. But are you sure?

Lord knows, the faster class is killer in terms of seniority and progressing towards an upgrade. I'm not convinced at all by the flow, so I plan on getting in and getting out, regardless of where I go

But seriously 07-29-2021 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by vikaask (Post 3270792)
Appreciate the detailed response. I wouldn't mind that kind of timeframe. I'll talk to my recruiter today and see if I can get a better idea. They told our interview class yesterday to expect a class sometime in October!

Random people in an anonymous internet chat is the second worst place to get reliable info on an airline. Recruiters are by far the worst.

That said, as mentioned above, you should be able to get DFW based as an FO in fairly short order. There is projected to be lots of movement on both aircraft so I’d be surprised if it takes more than 4-5 months for you to get DFW. It would likely be less.

Things can always change of course.

vikaask 07-29-2021 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by But seriously (Post 3270828)
Random people in an anonymous internet chat is the second worst place to get reliable info on an airline. Recruiters are by far the worst.

That said, as mentioned above, you should be able to get DFW based as an FO in fairly short order. There is projected to be lots of movement on both aircraft so I’d be surprised if it takes more than 4-5 months for you to get DFW. It would likely be less.

Things can always change of course.

Definitely agree with you there, I'm basically in the data acquisition stage, regardless of veracity. I'll put it all side-by-side and make a more educated decision between the offers I have. Regardless, I take everything I hear with a grain of salt!

That's good to know about the movement within the airline. In your opinion, how does that movement affect upgrade times? Thanks

CLE to IAH 07-29-2021 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by vikaask (Post 3270825)
Lord knows, the faster class is killer in terms of seniority and progressing towards an upgrade. I'm not convinced at all by the flow, so I plan on getting in and getting out, regardless of where I go

a bit tongue in cheek, as I worked for envoy and didn’t absolutely hate it but…. Even though they have a lot of goobers, SKYW might be a better shot right now than eny. Even with that 6 months considered.

do what you want and obviously what’s best for you, but go where you will hate life the least, should you get stuck there longer than you intended.

Oh well. Just my opinion. As they say, opinions are like (you know….. the thing)

vikaask 07-29-2021 04:31 PM

Appreciate the advice! Got a lot to think about in the coming weeks

But seriously 07-29-2021 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by vikaask (Post 3270836)
Definitely agree with you there, I'm basically in the data acquisition stage, regardless of veracity. I'll put it all side-by-side and make a more educated decision between the offers I have. Regardless, I take everything I hear with a grain of salt!

That's good to know about the movement within the airline. In your opinion, how does that movement affect upgrade times? Thanks

I think upgrade times across the entire regional industry are going to be way shorter than they should be. ENY will be no different. If I had to guess, I’d say it’ll be back to “as soon as you get your 950 hours” by the time you are ready to upgrade. That is a WAG of course.


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