AVERAGE credit has been running somewhere between 73-75 with days off averaging 13-14. It varies from month to month, base to base and plane to plane, but those averages have been holding with the recovery. Probably a bit better pre pandemic.

The other thing that is rarely mentioned is number of lines verses pilots. Since I don’t have actual numbers, I’m going to just say indications are that Envoy does carry a deeper bench of reserves. That in turn really lowers averages for number of days off, but slightly increases credit, since reserve is 11 days off and 75 hours.

None of the AAG regionals really “pick” the flying they do. Yes, they do have some input, but the reality is AAG bean counters decides who flies what. Does Envoy get the worst flight file? Does seem that way, but without the whole picture of ALL the regionals available, you’re making some wild swings.

PBS isn’t going to change any of that. It will benefit the senior pilots and hurt the junior ones, just like any system of bidding. The same sequences that go into lines will go into the PBS pot. Those juicy sequences will be picked up by the senior guys and the cr@??y ones will be left for the junior pilots.

Yes, without rigs / min day or some other forcing function I expect schedules to remain excruciatingly unproductive.

Yep this. Ease of commute trumps all else IMO.

This is 100% a middle finger to all current pilots, update the apps and get the F out

Envoy no longer promises a # of years to flow on their website or recruiting material? Did the lawyers finally realize recruiting has been lying this whole time?

Then again, how many current pilots at Envoy have received a bonus? Not saying it was right then and it still isn’t. If Envoy, previously Eagle, took care of the pilots they already have, they wouldn’t run as many off as soon as they do and they wouldn’t have to worry as much about new hires.

Currently mulling regional offers.

I'm not chasing metal or pay at this stage in my career, and I am not putting any eggs into the flow basket or even glancing at the signing bonus that EVY is offering.

What are the odds of a new hire in the 145 getting based in Dallas, fresh out of class? What's the seniority in each base? I can't seem to find an up-to-date list of Junior FO bases.

Thanks

There’s a lot of flux at the moment that’s going to make it an issue to give exacting details. That said, if things settle down to pre-COVID type of movement, you will not get 145 Dallas in class, you will likely be able to bid for and be awarded Dallas before finishing training, you will spend a few months in your original base before finally ‘flowing’ to Dallas.

But our fleet makeup and bases are different now so I don’t know how closely post COVID movement will look like pre-COVID movement.

check the class drop thread for live announcements of current new hire assignments

Look at the Class drop list thread for trends. Most of those are furlough/inactive returnees. But it can go in any direction from class to class.

Last I saw on here the first class of all new hires is supposed to be late August. Cadets will get first pick of NEW HIRES, but the few cadets getting classes now are behind those current employees returning. Don’t know what the projections are for time to get a class date and there are probably quite a few in the pool, so things can change.