Envoy 2021: A New Hope

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04-12-2021 | 04:33 AM

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Cyio

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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH

seems like that would follow you around. Hopefully none of them were THBoobs famed cadets who were promised the 175?!

To be fair, at least for 2016 and early 2017, they were only offering DFW on the 175. So if you wanted to be in DFW and all the 175 slots got taken, I could see people leaving for another airline simply due to base.

Again, not something I would have recommended but it could have been more than just the plane for some.

04-12-2021 | 05:39 AM

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except for those months around 2016/2017 where sometimes only 3-5 people showed up. And the one where the entire class except for 2 people walked out of because they couldn’t get the 175.

There were some very small classes in 2016. But there was also at least one large ALL 175 class as well early in the year.

The cadet program wasn’t a big thing in 2016 and cadet status didn’t play into seniority until probably late 2018.

There was a class that would have had cadets with first choice that was all 145s either late 2019, maybe very early 2020, but “all but two” didn’t walk out. Might have been a couple that did, but if they were cadets, they would have been on the hook for some money.

04-12-2021 | 07:11 AM

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the best part is the few that stayed, who WERE going to get 145, got rewarded by the company and changed them to 175. The Union had a field day with that.

wow that's gold... Sure the 175 is nice but the goal for everyone should be to get in to the regionals and get out as fast as possible, not fly the shiniest jet.

04-12-2021 | 07:52 AM

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the best part is the few that stayed, who WERE going to get 145, got rewarded by the company and changed them to 175. The Union had a field day with that.

What class was this? Not buying it.

Like I said in my previous post, nothing I could find to support this.

04-12-2021 | 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by moonraker9

wow that's gold... Sure the 175 is nice but the goal for everyone should be to get in to the regionals and get out as fast as possible, not fly the shiniest jet.

having flown both i'm going to tell you right now that there are absolutely guys who have flown and even upgraded successfully on the 175 who would lose their jobs on the 145

it's not a stick/rudder thing although apparently many of us can't land right. it's a complete lack of situational awareness and planning.

point being that perhaps some of these pilots know they're weak and know the airplane will take up some of the slack for them.

04-12-2021 | 11:13 AM

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What class was this? Not buying it.

Like I said in my previous post, nothing I could find to support this.

And yet you seem to be ignoring this.

When did Envoy have a class that was only 145s and all but two walked out and subsequently were given 175s??

04-12-2021 | 11:24 AM

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At least those planes still had an autopilot. Strap on a Metroliner or a Jetstream for 6-8 legs and see how’d they do.

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please attempt to go to UND or Embry and make that statement to these kids nowadays. I would love to see their faces if someone told them they had to fly an ATR or SAAB

04-12-2021 | 11:31 AM

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LOL at thinking the 145 is hard to fly. Get over yourselves. I have my C-172 pitch/power worksheet already filled out and calibrated. Just a couple adjustments and all my climb outs and descents in the 145 will be a peace of cake.