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04-11-2021 | 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pitchattitude

Fair enough. I don’t know the numbers, but I don’t think PSA had 700 come back. That was the problem and why they needed the new hires so quickly.

They didn’t. We also have no idea how many of our furloughs will come back.

04-11-2021 | 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by But seriously

They didn’t. We also have no idea how many of our furloughs will come back.

Yup. There is also those on LTLOA. I think that group has a bigger bunch that won’t come back. But until it happens no one really what that number is.

04-11-2021 | 05:22 AM

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This right here, a lot of those 700 guys and gals have moved on at PSA.

Yes this is right, and I knew that I guess it just didn’t cross my mind at the moment. But I guess point being they still had about double the amount we do.

04-11-2021 | 09:07 AM

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I wonder if ALPA has historical data of a rough average of how many never come back from a furlough. 10%? 25%? I guess it would be hard because some carriers are more worthwhile to come back to. But I would be willing to bet at least 10% of our 225 do not come back.

To put that in perspective, 25 pilots wasn’t even half a class in 2016/17/18.

04-11-2021 | 09:23 AM

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except for those months around 2016/2017 where sometimes only 3-5 people showed up. And the one where the entire class except for 2 people walked out of because they couldn’t get the 175.

True, but the point being 25 is a drop in the ocean.

04-11-2021 | 12:32 PM

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except for those months around 2016/2017 where sometimes only 3-5 people showed up. And the one where the entire class except for 2 people walked out of because they couldn’t get the 175.

the poor babies. How demoralizing. Then the company and union screwed all new hires for the selective babies. The humanity.

04-11-2021 | 03:17 PM

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True, but the point being 25 is a drop in the ocean.

Only when the training machine is running at full tilt. How many instructors went back to the line and PSI are gone? Sim space has been a limiting factor in the past, but the ‘Voy is always slow to get the ball rolling so I wouldn’t be surprised if the classes are smaller for a while. And I still don’t believe there will be the movement to require those numbers to be hired for some time. Remember fleet is only 80% what it was and AAG had been more than happy to farm out flying to Skywest and Republic.

04-11-2021 | 07:35 PM

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except for those months around 2016/2017 where sometimes only 3-5 people showed up. And the one where the entire class except for 2 people walked out of because they couldn’t get the 175.

are you serious